Talk:Gabe Newell/Archive 1

Archive 1

Trivia Section

I will concede the fireplace incident, although my brother was an eye-witness. However, I think GN's status as a Harvard dropout is significant both in itself and as an example of the phenomenon in which many Harvard dropouts, including Bill Gates and a few of my TA's, went on to become Microsoft millionaires. Also, GN was never called "Feet" or "Birds" in school, and that line certainly qualified as silly, so I removed it. Fbagatelleblack 17:25, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Programmer?

I was under the impression that Newell was the lead programmer at Valve, the page mentions nothing about it and don't know if I'm mistaken. LikuX 08:40, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

PS3 Bias

What's with the section that is nothing but bias against the PS3? It doesn't even specify which "port" they are talking about. I know Newell has said that in the past, but he's said the same thing about the 360. It's his rant on next-gen in general. http://www.joystiq.com/2005/07/25/gabe-newell-not-happy-with-next-gen-consoles/ Hadiz (talk) 20:36, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Edited to clarify which port we are talking about. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 14:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I must say that I do find that section to be less than objective - it's effectively laying the blame for a perceived inadequate game on an person from a completely different development house. Gabe Newell really had nothing to with the quality of the ps3 release, nor should he be held accountable for it. Also of note is that the PS3 release of the Orange Box had an average reviewer score of 89% of metacritic, while this score is not quite as high as the pc and xbox releases it is enough to make it the 4th highest ranked game on the ps3. http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/halflife2theorangebox - Funkeystu (talk) 08:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

It should clearly be edited to show his overall distaste in current-gen console technology, or if anything, moved to another article (like Valve itself or The Orange Box). Right now this has a clear fanboy slant. -TonicBH (talk) 04:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Windows "producer"; other roles at Microsoft

From the article with the producer quote, Newell describes his role "[using] games industry parlance". Likely, this means he was a project manager, and given what I've read of Microsoft's management of projects, likely one of several. I'm interested more in what he did at Microsoft after those three releases, though. Depending on how you count them, the third release could have been Windows/x86 (2.1; released 1988) or Windows 3.0 (released 1990). Did he work at all on 3.1x, NT, or Windows 95? --coldacid (Talk|Contrib) 13:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Added a Picture

Not sure how to format pages correctly yet, and it looks kind of dumb on the page, so if someone could fix that for me, it would be great. --Renablistic 20:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Dumb? You, sir, are a genius. That is the greatest picture I have ever seen in my life. No, but seriously, that picture is so unflattering it's hilarious. I say keep it for the lulz. Sandwiches99 (talk) 05:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Son reportedly enjoys Counter-Strike?

What is this? What on God's green earth does this have to do with Gabe Newell? Millions of people enjoy Counter-Strike, and one of them is *gasp* related to him? No crap! This piece should be removed immediately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.157.74 (talk) 04:16, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

 Done I could imagine reasons it might be relevant, but the statement itself is an uncited weasel and we can't decide or speculate our own relevance either. DMacks (talk) 04:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Home

There's no way Gabe (and his family) lives (Long Beach Penn) which 165 miles from where he works (Bellevue, WA) and commutes that everyday. That had to have been a vacation home shown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.216.12.89 (talk) 20:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It should be Gabe Newell and Harrison went on to found Valve, not find. This page is semi protected so i can't correct it. someone with the authorisation, do it please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.172.27.119 (talk) 16:08, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

This is correct, and still hasn't been fixed. Hoping to bring it to the attention of the powers that be. -RokXRokX (talk) 03:26, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

College

The article says he dropped out of college, his category tag says he's an alumnus. Which one is it? I'll address this shortly if the original poster doesn't address it soon. Thanks, TheFireTones 12:23, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Both are true. He attended Harvard, thus qualifying as an alumnus, but he did not graduate. One does not need to be a graduate to be an alumnus, and I get fundraising letters from various institutions which prove this point. Ebikeguy (talk) 03:03, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Infobox Photo

If anyone wishes to change the infobox photo in this article, please discuss it on the "Talk" page first. Thanks. Ebikeguy (talk) 02:12, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Valve Task Force Re-vitalization

Attention, all contributors to the Valve Task Force and the articles it constitutes!
I am here to announce that I will be re-vitalizing the Valve Task Force, aimed at universally improving articles constituting Valve Corporation, their employees, associates and products. This specific task force has been dormant for quite some time and with two very notable releases coming out this year, I feel like this is the appropriate time to re-stimulate the general aim of this group. For those who are not already members of the Valve Task Force, feel free to add your name to our members list and contribute to whatever articles you feel your contributions may prove beneficial for. Valve, its products and notable employees have proven to be essential to the progression of the video game industry, so I'd like to make a call of arms for this cause. DarthBotto _talk•cont 21:56, 08 February 2011 (UTC)

Games in Windows?

From what I hear he was the one who included the games in Windows 1.0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.90.51 (talk) 16:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone have a reliable source on this factoid? AlistairMcMillan (talk) 00:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

That cant be true, in an interview with Gabe he said that he had never made a game before Half Life. He was a spreadsheet developer among other boring things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.232.51.167 (talk) 21:58, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Personal Life Section

I feel that the Personal Life section is kind of irrelevant, considering how little information it holds and its overall insignificance. Should it be removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.222.14.64 (talk) 07:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

'and Super Mario 64 convinced him video games were art' - so he did believe video games were art but now does not? is not the correcting wording 'and Super Mario 64 convinced him that video games are an artform.'

not to mention the fact that nowhere in the source article does it make mention that it is the same Gabe Newell from Valve. It could be just anyone. Delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Micbic2000 (talk • contribs) 10:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Should it be Suffered and not Suffers? Seeing as it's been cured? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.231.101 (talk) 01:20, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Newell's corporate title

In its latest press release, Valve refers to Gabe Newell as its president, not managing director. http://store.steampowered.com/news/5967/ 66.36.158.47 (talk) 06:47, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

On LinkedIn, Newell refers to himself as president and owner of Valve, for whatever that's worth. Ebikeguy (talk) 15:17, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Hatred

Well im suprised no one has done this before,he is a well hated man so i thought i would include this in the artical ok?Awsometilthegrave (talk) 20:08, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely not! Eik Corell (talk) 20:22, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

It's surprising to find Gabe's page here not protected. Gravitoweak (talk) 20:53, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

The article has been semi-protected since October 2009. That knocks the vandalism down to a level that is not "good" but still allows numerous good edits to proceed. Any vandals that do sneak through are (almost) obviously a chronic problem (and on balance perhaps an overall detriment to WP) rather than drive-by kids, so WP:AIV is where to request they be blocked. DMacks (talk) 21:31, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Certainly not. Gabe Newell is far from hated; he is rather popular, being that he has assisted in the development of many Steam-Games, Window Platforms, console platforms and other cetra. Gabe Newell is often subject to many cruel jokes in the Valve community, but Gabe is far from "hated". Gabe Newell is actually one of my favorite figures in todays society. He is also a admired figure of many Valve fans such as myself, despite the cruel jokes and such, he is most popular. :) --Suffery (talk) 21:57, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

New image

I suggest we upload a new image that has been around the internet for a few days now, the one used right now is really unflattering. This is the image which should be used. Almater (talk) 17:10, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Only images that are available under a free license are permitted for this individual. "Something floating on the internet" doesn't meet that fairly strict legal definition or wikipedia-policy standard. See Wikipedia:Non-free content for more details about the idea of "free" here. DMacks (talk) 17:18, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to dig up a Creative Commons photo that is a bit more flattering to Mr. Newell. Cheers, Ebikeguy (talk) 17:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

What if you just... asked him for a better one? He DOES answer emails.171.159.192.10 (talk) 12:26, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Already tried that. No luck. Ebikeguy (talk) 18:31, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 April 2012

Please remove "He is a confirmed fan of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic", due to that it unnecessary to have this added to his personal life, as it has no impact on his career or actual personal life. Murferu (talk) 06:02, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. Removed per WP:UNDUE. Eik Corell (talk) 11:48, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Already done. Please be sure to disable the requested edit template after completing an edit request. Thanks Eik!   — Jess· Δ♥ 00:48, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

"He is a confirmed fan of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic."

This is a pointless addition to the article and will only serve to cause controversy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.55.148.127 (talk) 02:35, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

^ This. Completely pointless. 64.213.222.97 (talk) 02:46, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't know, if we have his favourite games, why not this? 117.194.230.20 (talk) 10:21, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Because a game designer's favorite games influence the games they produce. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.81.118.108 (talk) 02:09, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Quote

I would like that this quote was added to the wikipage in some way ( seems locked ):

C'mon, people, you can't show the player a really big bomb and not let them blow it up.

This statement can be found on this page: http://www.valvesoftware.com/people.html . Spearmintz (talk) 14:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Unless it is particularly relevant, the place for quotes is http://www.wikiquote.org/ AlistairMcMillan (talk) 17:45, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Could someone add the fact that on the TF2 commentary, he stated that his favorite class is the Spy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.166.247 (talk) 01:05, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Age

Why does it say that Gabe was born 150 years ago? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.219.17.221 (talk) 22:18, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

WP:VANDALISM happens from time to time. Looks like it was promptly fixed. DMacks (talk) 23:58, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

quick little word change

under work it says "upcoming operating system" windows 8 has been released so this needs changing to "newest operating system"

cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subz91 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Fixed this. Thanks for pointing it out. Samwalton9 (talk) 23:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Star Trek

The article says: "His favorite games are Super Mario 64, Doom, and Star Trek played on a Burroughs mainframe computer." It would be nice if we could add an internal link for Star Trek. I think Newell means Star Trek (script game), but it could also be Star Trek (text game). --82.170.113.123 (talk) 14:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Fat

Anyone find some reliable sources about how all his fans mock his weight?--Vaypertrail (talk) 16:34, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Is this in the article somewhere or are you proposing including it? Samwalton9 (talk) 16:44, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

It's not in this article, but I also think it should be included, as it has gone as far as it has now become an internet meme. Gabe Newell has never publicly commented on his weight, and I assume that no reliable sources say what his weight is. However mocking Gabe for his weight is very common online and it's widely believed that every time someone makes a fat joke about Gabe, it delays the release of Half Life 3. --PWNGWN (talk) 14:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

There are no grounds for including this information in the article if no reliable sources cover it and after a brief search it would appear they don't. Samwalton9 (talk) 14:15, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism?

why is this article "semi protected indefinitely due to an ongoing high risk of vandalism"? why is Newell so unpopular?? Jgcxelite (talk) 12:35, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't know the exact reasons, but I do know that, especially around Facepunch Forums, there are constant cracks at Mr. Newell's weight and his apparent habit of constantly pushing releases father and farther back. It's even gone so far as to connect the two together, stating that any joke about Newell would lead to the delay of an upcoming game. That's probably why the article is protected, to prevent such jokes from appearing. 216.236.163.39 (talk) 16:31, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Even though the page is protected, someone was still able to get onto it and throw some jokes onto it today (August 16, 2009) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BfDelano (talk • contribs) 20:17, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

How dare they? Gabe Newell has meant a lot for the developement of games. Even thought I don't like certain things in their games, I enjoy them as a whole. I does not like certain things about steam either, but if we are about to judge something, we must remember to sum up everything.

Also remember that the only one that truely can judge a person is him/her-self!

Spearmintz (talk) 14:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

--He hates PS3? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.230.139 (talk) 09:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Not because he hates the PS3, but because he's gone to lengths to insult the PS3's entire fan base with vicious and entirely unnecessary remarks to the media. The Playstation isn't his only target either. The guy is pretty rude toward anyone and anything outside of his sphere. He just foams at the mouth more than usual concerning the PS3. So it shouldn't be surprising at all if a lot of people he's been offensive to feel inclined to be offensive right back at him. 67.164.111.181 (talk) 22:06, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Its my fault, A long time ago I edited the page saying he died on his toilet, I was bored, That was I think, in 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.132.49 (talk) 06:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

And the entire pcmasterrace thing where they basically worship him. Its satirical but that doesn't mean that there aren't people who would vandalize the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.12.193 (talk) 14:51, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2013

Put his nickname, Gaben in his name. Hondaissace (talk) 11:25, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Stfg (talk) 11:54, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Gaben Phenomenon?

Gabe Newell has become an extremely popular man, an icon of the PC gaming industry. Along with this status there has been a proliferation of content related to this (especially using the alternative "Gaben", which is based on his email, GabeN@valve). The use of this alternate name is so ubiquitous that it actually seems to pop up in a news/blog article by accident (http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/142896-valve-confirms-steam-box-coming-in-2013-says-it-will-compete-with-next-gen-consoles).

A few examples of extremely popular video/audio content related to this phenomenon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdeY1v6jC7Q http://www.gabenewell.org/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tsHkpesBdY

One can see the influence of this phenomenon almost everywhere in the PC gaming community. I feel it is relevant to this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.181.89.74 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2014

I am requesting to change Gabe Newell's image to a more recent image (i.e. with his beard).(Source:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/files/2014/01/newell-200x300.jpg) Thank you for your time. :D TeiselBonne1834 (talk) 00:05, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Not done: Wikipedia can only accept free images. Images in newspapers or other publications, or ones generally foud on other websites do not qualify under the Wikipedia:Image use policy. DMacks (talk) 02:36, 8 January 2014 (UTC)}}

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2014

Gabe Newell
Newell at the 2010 Game Developers Conference
Born	(1962-11-03) November 3, 1962
Alma mater	Harvard University
Occupation	Managing director of Valve Corporation
Spouse	Lisa Newell
Children	2

SnoopDoge69 (talk) 23:59, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 00:23, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2014

Under External Links, Interviews, https://ia701205.us.archive.org/20/items/SevenDayCooldown-Episode1Gaben/Episode1-Full128-Final.mp3 should be referenced as having been interviewed by SevenDayCooldown Irishspuds (talk) 06:32, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Don't see why this particular interview should be listed. My searches for SevenDayCooldown have not been very convincing as they don't seem to be very big and their website is defunct Cannolis (talk) 06:40, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2014

Gabe has an odd hate for the number three. He didn't stay for the release of Windows 3, he hasn't developed Half life three, and he hasn't developed portal 3. The closest he has ever gotten was Half life 2 part 2. 96.233.63.88 (talk) 00:34, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

• • You're not funny. I closed the request. —ajf (talk)

"publically"

Says "publically" at the end of the § Work section. (Also, that entire sentence about Hatred is WP:RECENTISM and really not noteworthy enough in the article about the person Newell. It should be removed, IMO.) --82.136.210.153 (talk) 00:58, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Partly done: publically -> publicly is done. Re Hatred open a discussion and gain consensus. -- Sam ^Sing! 02:40, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Last [citation needed] can be proven, but I can't find a single source that could be used

"Gaben" meme started with Gabe saying his email address in TF2s developer commentary, he said it as /ˈɡeɪbɛn/. I'm sure there is possibly some proof of this, I think this is the video that popularized it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tsHkpesBdY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.182.217.138 (talk) 16:16, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

It's from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0j1qELrrvI#t=49 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.128.67.190 (talk) 06:16, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Since this is his nickname (Gaben), and the name by which a majority of the gaming community calls him (the community in which he is a public figure), perhaps this should be used in the Lede after where his name is listed. not sure of the name conventions though, ill do some research. InsertCleverPhraseHere ^{InsertTalkHere}  07:48, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2015

I would like to add some important info TheAdverageDouchebag (talk) 03:10, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Alakzi (talk) 03:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2015

Bad link on reference number 5, this is the updated link: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/ps3-a-waste-of-time-says-valves-newell Zelgan90 (talk) 20:28, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Done MadGuy7023 (talk) 20:49, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2015

Gabe Newell's Net Worth has gone up from the date the original writer of the page has wroten that. The current net worth(as for March, 2015) 1.5$ Billion. A source : http://www.richestcelebrities.net/gabe-newell-net-worth/ 213.57.36.103 (talk) 14:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. This site does not appear to a reliable source. -- ferret (talk) 14:47, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Reference Link Rot

Reference link 3 no longer available, redirects to gamesradar.com; suggest replacing with wayback version: http://web.archive.org/web/20141113095647/http://www.computerandvideogames.com/172835/interviews/creative-minds-gabe-newell/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.12.144 (talk) 15:26, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Software Engineer or Manager?

The article doesn't say anything what role was he in Microsoft. Was he a software engineer or on some managerial role?36.85.185.192 (talk) 13:59, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

I actually came across something about this while trying to clarify yesterday if his official title was "Managing Director", which is typically a British usage, or "CEO". The official directory on Valve's site suggests he held management, or at least "project management", type positions. -- ferret (talk)

Capitalization request

The N in GabeN should be capitalized, as GabeN means GabeNewell.

Actually "Gaben" comes from his email address, gaben@valvesoftware.com, and due to the internet, the pronounciation was edged to "Gaben" instead of "Gabe N.". This is also what Gabe himself and some colleagues use in some tweets as well. Thus, I think it is kind of "official" to say Gaben, but GabeN is just what the other half of Reddit tries to make it. Lordtobi (✉) 15:24, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

"Gradated" change to "Graduated"

CURRENT: Newell grew up in Davis, California and gradated from Davis Senior High School in 1980.

PLEASE CHANGE "gradated" to "graduated": Newell grew up in Davis, California and graduated from Davis Senior High School in 1980. Niclazarev (talk) 21:31, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Done -- ferret (talk) 21:34, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2016

Detail missing from his work section 182.186.150.103 (talk) 08:37, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Could you be more specific, please? What kind of details? The request must be of the form "please change X to Y". ChamithN (talk) 09:06, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2016

In the opening sentence, please move the pronunciation of Newell so that it immediately follows the name. Currently, it appears to give the pronunciation of Gaben in a parenthetical sitting outside a comma. —67.14.236.50 (talk) 16:24, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Here is how I would change it: Gabe Logan Newell (/ˈnjuːəl/; born (1962-11-03)November 3, 1962), often nicknamed Gaben, is …. But that’s just how I would implement this request. —67.14.236.50 (talk) 16:28, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

 Done Lordtobi (✉) 17:51, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Cult of personality

Maybe there should be a bit about the cult of personality surrounding him in the gamer community. Benjamin (talk) 07:46, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Any sources on this, and what would you add beyond what's already in the article? --Golbez (talk) 07:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Memes aren't reliable sources. If you can find something written by one regarding it however, feel free to use it. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 08:25, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Nickname discussion

Hi, let's stop edit war and discuss first.

I think his nickname should be GabeN because:

• I always think it is supposed to be Gabe + N from his last name, since the origin of this nickname is his email address, which sometimes people use this format. I have no solid source, though.
• His email is not really a proof of which spelling is more correct. E-mail address is case-insensitive, so people write their email in all lower case all the time, despite whatever spelling they prefer. If anything, he doesn't write his email as "Gaben@valvesoftware.com" either.

-fireattack (talk) 17:45, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

• But GabeN isn't as common as Gaben, so shouldn't WP:COMMONNAME apply? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 20:07, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

• Remember COMMONNAME applies to article titles, not content really. TMRULES might apply, but this is not a trademark. -- ferret (talk) 20:45, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

• Yeah, but we still should prefer the use of the more common stylization. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:18, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

What do WP:RS use? @Dissident93: what is the basis for your "GabeN isn't as common as Gaben" claim? DMacks (talk) 21:13, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Per the link Lordtobi posted in the edit summary: https://cse.google.com/cse/home?cx=003516479746865699832:leawcwkqifq&q=%22Gaben%22 Many of the sources here simply use "Gaben". ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:16, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Honestly most of the people I know call him Lord Gaben. Loafin (talk) 22:07, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

I can agree with this statement, however, me and my friends is not a reliable source. With how Wikipedia works, you could be GabeN and still need to cite a source for any major content you add. — IVORK _Discuss 22:21, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2017

Gabe is now 55 due to it being the 3rd of november 87.101.139.214 (talk) 19:25, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

 Not done The page already displays 55 due to it using a template calculating this automatically. If it still shows 54 for you, you might need to referesh your cache; most browser allow this by pressing Ctrl+Shift+R on the given page. Lordtobi (✉) 19:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Says 55 for me as well. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:05, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2019

change married to divorced 2016 96.242.27.240 (talk) 16:41, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done. Requires a source. Lordtobi (✉)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2019

age 57 109.186.63.10 (talk) 20:11, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Newell turns 57 on November 3rd, it is March 29th. Lordtobi (✉) 20:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

(Plus it updates automatically once it is Nov 3. -- ferret (talk) 20:16, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Grammar Mistake

I can't edit this article but there's a grammar mistake in the Personal life section. Third sentence. "The couple have two sons..." should be "The couple has two sons..."

I think the sentence "The couple has two sons, including Gray Newell" reads a lot better but that's just my opinion.

• Isn't "have" used for plural examples in the present tense? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:34, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Gabe Newell undergraduate houses at Harvard University

Gabe Newell confirmed in an email from his publicly published address that he lived in Thayer and Winthrop houses while attending Harvard University, as confirmed here https://i.imgur.com/ctUfSBC.jpg

Gzideck (talk) 03:42, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Newell's emails have been faked before, which is why shouldn't consider Imgur a reliable source. Lordtobi (✉) 04:27, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Even if this was true, would it really matter where he lived on campus anyway? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 04:47, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm the one who received the email, didn't know what the best way of providing solid evidence was. The house you live in at Harvard is a big deal, demonstrated by them all having their own Wikipedia pages, such as Winthrop House. Additionally, if you go down the List of Harvard University people page, you'll find that many of them display their resident houses during their time at the college. Gzideck (talk) 13:14, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

We cannot verify who received this email, even if it was you. This is simply why Wikipedia does not accept this mouth-to-mouth information and instead relies on reliable secondary sources. If this is relevant, someone will have reported on it (e.g. a Harvard-centric mag could have this). Lordtobi (✉) 13:28, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Fair enough, but the info can't really be verified like Lordtobi said. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 05:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

There is the email though, I'll email him myself and CC everyone in this conversation if need be.--Prisencolin (talk) 18:23, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Any updates on this? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 22:35, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Dead link (reference #22)

Hello!

I'm very, very new to Wikipedia so please forgive me for any errors. Regarding the page, The Seattle Times changed their archival prefix from old. to archive., and the old. one doesn't work anymore, so is it possible for anyone to update the link on reference 22 from http://old.seattletimes.com/pacificnw/2003/0518/cover02.html, to https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20030516&slug=plongbeach18?

Thank you!

Skylamps (talk) 21:48, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Skylamps, late but fixed. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 00:55, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2021

Change his height to 1.85m (confirmed by Gaben himself https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/osy0dk/gaben_himself_responded_to_my_email_he_is_around/ ) Emeric1414 (talk) 01:15, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Height is irrelevant for this article and shouldnt be includedFMSky (talk) 01:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Market share description.

"Steam controls half to 70%" and "more than half" is not the same thing. The first statement carries with it a high degree of uncertainty, where the second implies far less doubt. The citation supports the first statement, it does not support the second. I'm restoring the status quo and going back to "half to 70%", and allowing a consensus to form before editing further. cc:@Dissident93: Rklahn (talk) 13:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

• @Rklahn: My changes were done due to the degree of uncertainty (a range of 20% goes beyond reasonable margin of error), but if you believe my edit also implied less doubt then fair enough. Would a simple "roughly half of the market" be an improvement over both? ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 14:48, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree with the idea that a 20% range is beyond reasonable. That's actually what I think needs to be preserved here. When "half to 70%" is said, the reader is able to question it, and because of verifiability the reader can find it, see it is the same in the source, and give the passage it's due weight. "more that half" gives the source more credence than it should have. There are probably other ways to say this, and maybe other sources that give better data, and we can talk about that. That being said, I think the original stands out as the best at this point. cc: @Dissident93 and IceWelder: Rklahn (talk) 17:07, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2022

I Want to give the real facts about Gaben. I am in a Discord call with him, and nothing on this article is true. 2601:C7:C200:3B60:F0C8:3886:F2FB:3116 (talk) 21:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 03:46, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Early life and Microsoft career source

Please review source 9 & update how it relates to the reference to the Windows 95 port for Doom in the section "Early life and Microsoft career". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:1713:F900:D1D0:2021:1FAC:7444 (talk) 12:22, 24 April 2022 (UTC)