Talk:Garibaldi, British Columbia

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Page probably created not knowing Garibaldi Provincial Park already existed.

which is fine, as this is now remade into an article on the townsite, which it should have been in the first place.Skookum1 (talk) 23:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Volcano template inclusion

I've added this particular page to WikiProject Volcanoes because of the volcanic hazard and evacuation of Garibaldi. There's other similar articles, such as Pompeii. Black Tusk (talk) 00:51, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Same rationale, I suppose, that I included the natural hazards cat.....but Pompeii was destroyed, ditto the villages near Tseax Cond; Garibaldi was not. Still, seems reaonsable; is the Volcanoes tag on the Mount Baker Ski Area, though, or on Concrete, Washington et al?Skookum1 (talk) 00:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes I ment same rationale. I'm not sure if there's more town articles with the Volcanoes template but the Mount Baker Ski Area and Concrete articles don't. But Garibaldi's still notable for its volcanic hazard evacuation; see the seconed reference in the article or [1]. Is there a name for the destroyed Tseax village? Black Tusk (talk) 01:21, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, true enough about the evacuation; there's a few others might apply, including maybe things that didn't get built because of such reasons; Britannia should get the natural hazards cat I guess because there, also, was an evacuation order. On the SLRD page there's a section on Avalanche Hazards, with specifics on various areas/communities/sections of highway etc; Meager Creek Hot Springs were closed because of flood hazards, as i recall also. Hm. Maybe the FVRD has reports on Mount Breakenridge, which I've mentioned before. Thing is with The Barrier it's more of a tectonic hazard - geotetonic - than volcanic as a threat; it's a wall of crumbling, unstable cliff, cliff that happens to be lava. It's not like Garibaldi's in danger because the mountain's erupting; and it would most likely be a small temblor that set off the landslide/rockfall/lake-collapse. And I followed this in the papers when the controversy was going on; the reality of a releasing of Garibaldi Lake is that Squamish and the Howe Sound communities would be in just as much danger; I wouldn't want to be in Paradise Valley or Cheekeye when the debris flow came barrelling down through there; reports suggested a debris-caused wave in Howe Sound tha conceivably could nail Nanaimo and take out a ferry or two. Fun, fun, fun - and all from a relatively small temblor, depending on how its rhtyhm/waves hit the weight or crystalline structur of the rock. The line at the time was "if they want to evacuate Gariabladi so much, why aren't they evacuating Squamish?" By the way as I'm not in the province right now - was it by any chance raining at the time of the Porteau slide the other day, or maybe in just-previous days. I know a bit about the geological structure of the rock - hm, those were basalt slabs, if I'm not mistaken - "slabs" as the geo-engineer or whatever he was back then at the meetings I was at describing the rock structure, pointed in 10-15' thick stacked bricks, sloping down towards the tracks; they had one really wild shot of one really big rock - I see now it was a basalt crystal, like the ones usually found standing up around there like at Northair/McGuire's - one really big rock, about the size of a Vancouver monster house b ut oblong kinda, sitting on top of a very small locomotive. Made even smaller, and a whole lot flatter. Anyway he cited the main risks as anything from too much water, not enough water, a temblor, a combination of those, and also "unforeseen circumstnacnes", whatever those might be. There might be some reports around in old SLRD archives, or at one of the local papers' files - ditto on Garibaldi, Squamish Library a good place to start for all the older local newspapers, many out of print - about the Porteau Bluffs, although Porteau, British Columbia is maybe more verstaile; �But while it's of volcanic origin - the cliff at Porteau - is it a volcanic hazard? Taht's the same issue with the Barrier; it's not its proximity to the volcano that's the real issue; it's the threat of a slide; not much different in concept from a glacial dam, where the inherent structure/integrity of the dam lets go; now, if it were a lahar, of course it's volcanic....one of my aunts owned land on the Big Island (Hawaii), did I tell you that? On the western flank somewhere; kept on getting wiped out by lava....she was kind enught to be amused about it; more than once...never been there though....Skookum1 (talk) 06:21, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Anythng that originates from a volcanic source is considered a volcanic hazard (e.g. debris flows, landslides, lahars). They're commonly called a secondary hazard because they are not associated with an eruption, but rather result from the environment created by the volcano (i.e. The Barrier) [2]. And volcanic hazards are a tectonic hazard, given the fact they're created in tectonic environments. There's also the landslide hazards at Meager and Cayley. Black Tusk (talk) 02:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

When?

The article fails to state what year the town was abandoned.--dunnhaupt (talk) 21:20, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, I thought BCGNIS would have more on this than it does, but though it was downgraded from Community to Locality in 1983, it had already been evacuated; there should be a lot of news copy on it, there were various controversies to do with the expropriation and the circumstance; if the Whistler Question or one of the Squamish papers have online archives, that would be handy; maybe someone at the Pique could be helpful in sourcing that, or maybe they've even written about it. Pinecrest and Black Tusk Estates were land-resettlements for property owners in Garibaldi...this all went down in the '70s, some of the politicking was still going on in the early '80s but both resettlements were in place by the time I first settled in Whistler, in '81; there's a Pinecrest in BCGNIS, but it doesn't have any date info, but there's no Black Tusk Estates; the SLRD site might have something on it, maybe.Skookum1 (talk) 07:10, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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