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Simpsons appearances

Why aren't any of Mr. Takei's The Simpsons appearances mentioned? VarunRajendran 16:04, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Because there is a stupid Wikipedia policy to not have trivia sections, so that fact that he was also heavily referenced in the of Montreal song, The Past is a Grotesque Animal would have to be shoehorned in to a major section, where it would be completely inappropriate.--Macca7174talk 11:38, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

General

Why is brad altman redirected here with no bio or info about him? 24.1.193.27 (talk) 21:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC) matt

The article shouldn't start off by stating he's homosexual, unless we want to start adding stuff like "Kiefer Sutherland is a heterosexual American actor." I won't take it down but I hope someone else will. 67.46.0.13 10:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I added a minor grammatical change.

I've removed the tag for Category:Gay, lesbian or bisexual people. There is no reference to Takei's sexual orientation in his autobiography, on his webpage, in any of the reference works I examined, or in a Lexis/Nexis search. Google turns up random web gossip but nothing I would consider even remotely substantial. Gamaliel 08:04, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

May or may not be appropriate to add a reference to the play The Unauthorized Biography of George Takei. Alison9 04:52, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Asexuality says this guy is asexual.

I've removed the reference there as well. Gamaliel 22:41, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Some guy added it back.

Looks like it's true. [1] I've restored the cat. Gamaliel 20:53, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

George is Gay ,that's O'K'

Takei has publicly stated that he's homosexual, and that's alright ,after all it's not a shock to him (Takei). I wonder what Mr. Sulu of the I.S.S. Enterprise :episode: Mirror, Mirror (remember ,he lusted for Uruhra) would think of it. Anyways George, this Star Trek fan will always be a fan of yours. Mightberight/wrong 17:55, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

George Takei is gay, but I'm fairly certain that Hikaru Sulu is heterosexual, based on canon and extended works. Come to think of it, there's not a whole hell of a lot of homosexuality in Star Trek... any thoughts? --Dante Alighieri | Talk 19:35, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
the Star Trek TNG episode The Outcast, indirectly deals with homosexuality, that's the only instance I can think of. Mightberight/wrong 21:58, 28 October 2005 (UTC).
There's been a lot of criticism of all of the various Star Treks' handling (or more precisely, not handling) of the topic of homosexuality. See http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/trek.html for an essay on the subject. (02:19, October 31, 2005 68.17.185.92)
There was also that TNG episode with the Dax when Dr. Crusher had a relationship with a male host and the symbiont went into a female host when the male one died. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 22:20, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
Assuming that Japanese culture and ethics in the Star Trek Universe did not change drastically from now and ISS's Sulu had enough Japanese-ness in him, I believe he can be a bi-sexual and may even consider Takei "inferior" for only going after man. Ridiculous as this may seem, Oda Nobunaga, probably the most ruthless man in Japanese history, was a bi-sexual. In Mirror Universe, a person tends to be more sinister so it's a logical conclusion. -- Revth 05:49, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Dante Alighieri, there's no canonical evidence that sulu was heterosexual, so he could just as easily be gay.
Anon, he certainly *could*. Assuming that the incidence of homosexuality in humans in the future is roughly similar to present-day, I'd argue that he's "probably" heterosexual... as most people seem to be. I'd thought that I'd read a book back in the day that involved him in a romantic relationship but I can not recall the title... it probably isn't canon anyway. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 18:42, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
In the Original Series episode "The Way to Eden", Sulu is tempted by a flirtatious female member of Dr. Sevrin's group. In Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country one of the bridge officers of the Enterprise-B, Demora Sulu is identified as Hikaru Sulu's daughter in dialog. There has never been any canonical indication of Mr. Sulu being sexually interested in men, so while George Takei is gay, Hikaru Sulu is straight so far as has been depicted.
Davidkevin 16:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Surely we can imagine some ways a gay person might have a daughter in the 23rd Century? This fact is totally irrelevant to Sulu's sexuality. Vagary 04:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
OK, I have a question. Why is a persons homosexuality such a big issue in Wiki? We never seem to comment on a persons heterosexuality, so whats the big deal with homosexuality? Surely to God a comment such as "Adam has been with his partner Steve since 1987" is sufficient? I dont mean to sound/be homophobic, and if this comes across like that, sorry, but I really don't understand why we do this. Jcuk 00:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

People on wikipedia shouldn't be classed by sexuality, There's no reason to mention it in the first sentence. Does the article on Tchaikovsky mention his homosexuality in the first sentence? No, it doesn't, because it did not define his work, and the situation is the same for George NickBrett 19:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you, Nick. His sexual orientation is irrelevent and should be removed from the first sentence. I had to check if this was vandalism... 70.65.138.179 22:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
I disagree. It might not define his television work per se, but it defines his family and his gay rights activism, both of which are notable and routinely covered in the media.
But generally the sexuality of every gay person, especially prominent ones, is inherently a very large social/academic/political/theological/etc. issue, whether they like it or not, because Western culture and academia is deeply ingrained with institutionalized heterosexism. Maybe when the world is more fair that will no longer be the case.66.188.125.219 (talk) 18:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation clarification please

The pronunciation key gives his name as tɘke but shouldn't it be tɘke: ? In Japanese, the last 'i' would formally be pronounced by a singer/public speaker but it is often flattened colloquially into a twice-as-long 'e', as in 'tuck - air'. Someone who knows about phonetics please review. - Richardcavell 01:25, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I've personally heard him pronounce his surname Tah-kay, with the accent on the second syllable.
Davidkevin 16:08, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
His name ryhmes with "Okay." Now, can you bring me some hot water? DRY OATMEAL.68.224.239.240
a paranthesis is opened but never closed at the beginning of the article: George Hosato Takei (last name is pronounced (IPA pronunciation: [tα'keɪ]) (131.130.121.106 23:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC))
Why do so many people (Shatner included!!) pronouce it Takai?
The correct Japanese pronunciation and the way George Takei pronounces his name is Tah-Kay. "Takai" is incorrect and happens to mean expensive or tall in Japanese.Udibi (talk) 00:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
"Takai" is also a common Japanese surname as well. (For example, Yohei Takai). --Revth (talk) 03:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

NPOV--Past Relationship with William Shatner

This is the only article I have ever seen in any medium which uses a phrase such as "openly despise" or the word "contempt" in regard to this relationship. This is not, it seems to me, NPOV phrasing and requires rewriting.

Davidkevin 16:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

The wording may be somewhat inappropriate. However, some of this is documented in his autobiography. For example: the statement "Takei also believed that Shatner was personally responsible for Mr. Sulu's slow rank advancement in the fictional Starfleet " could be justified by a story in the book that Shatner under played a scene in STII in which Sulu would have been promoted to Captain, and was cut according to the Takei’s book because of Statner’s performance. There is more in the book, but it has been a long time since I read it. --60.225.0.88 10:58, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


Samurai

An article in a recent issue of TV Guide, spotlighting his Heroes role, mentions Takei is descended from a legendary samurai. Who might this be? The S 18:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

According to this interview, he's descended from Takeda Shingen. - LeeNapier 16:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

photograph needs replacing

The photograph of George Takei that appears on this page is actually of a Tawny Owl. I'm assuming this needs replacing? Alivicwil 12:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The above is the coolest sentence I have ever read ANYWHERE. (And I read Faulkner!) 128.195.218.14 (talk) 21:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

main photo is too big!

the main photo is enormous. It's far too big to make the first paragraphs of the article easily readable on low-resolution displays (anything under 1600x1200, for that matter). Would someone please resize this image and reupload it? 192.158.61.167 18:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what you see, but here it's 220x275, which isn't "enormous" at all. (Filename: "220px-George_Takei.jpg") --DocMcCoy 21:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Being a parent doesn't make you straight

Right now it implies that Sulu might be straight, and implies his daughter Demora is some sort of evidence. That is illogical. Plenty of gay people are parents. It says absolutely nothing about Sulu's sexuality, as the mother and her relationship to Sulu is never mentioned. Not sure why this gets reverted, except perhaps someone out there has something against reality and the existence of gay parents.66.188.125.219 (talk) 18:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

That isn't even the main issue with this section in the article. It belongs in the article for Sulu, not for the actor who played the character. Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Catchphrase?

"In the Cory in the House episode "Air Force One Too Many", Takei plays the Steward on Air Force One, Ronald, and utters his catch phrase when he experiences stomach problems." What catchphrase might that be? I think it should be in the article somewhere if it's going to be mentioned. Tevildo (talk) 22:27, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I do believe it was "Oh My!" as he used to say as Sulu 75.72.25.219 (talk) 03:58, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

This may very well be George's "catch phrase" though its the first I've heard it referenced this way. He says, "Oh MY!" when surprised at public speaking events, but his Star Trek character, Sulu has never uttered this on film. Akuvar (talk) 16:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
its now his catchphrase. he uses it in an advertisement for a new Sharp TV system, Quattron. i recommend this be added to his 2000's work. the phrase would not have been used by Sulu, unless it was the evil sulu, as its too out of character. (once a fanboy, always a fanboy...)Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
I didn't watch "I'm a celebrity..." and I bet he used it a lot on there. And yes, I've seen the commercial too. I don't mind the reference, I just didn't want people thinking he had established it as sulu. Akuvar (talk) 00:12, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Indent reset! Anyone know what the first use of "OH MY!" was? He was using it in 1998 on Muppets Tonight 198.6.46.11 (talk) 17:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it's beign discussed here. http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=560417 198.6.46.11 (talk) 17:47, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Asteroid naming

I added the actual naming citation from Minor Planets for the asteroid named in his honor. Akuvar (talk) 20:26, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Introduction overhaul

One of the headers for this article asks that the introduction be more tuned towards what makes this person notable. As of this time, it speaks mostly of television appearances. I'd like to propose changing the introduction to something like this:

George Hosato Takei Altman (born April 20, 1937) is a Japanese American actor, best known for his role in the television series Star Trek, in which he played Hikaru Sulu, helmsman of the USS Enterprise. He is an outspoken proponent of gay rights and active in State and local politics as well as continuing his acting career. He has won several awards and accolades in his work on Human Rights and Japanese-American relations, including his work with the Japanese American National Museum.

Please weigh-in with comments/additions/changes. Akuvar (talk) 19:28, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I like your new intro, very well written! 198.6.46.11 (talk) 17:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I think two editors in the past 6 months have added the Howard Stern show to the introduction. I know this is a popular show, but I don't feel this recurring role is what makes Takei most noteable and doesn't belong in the intro. He has had many recurring roles and they are all listed in the article under his work. Akuvar (talk) 18:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
On the Stern show George Takei thanked Howard Stern for changing his career on several occasions. He did credit the Stern Show for the fact that people on the street starting to call him "George" instead of "Mr. Sulu", for "Oh my" becoming his catch-prase and for "opening a lot of doors in show business." Unfortunately I can not find a source right now for the first claim, but the latter two are documented here: http://subspacecommunique.com/node/1313 and here: http://omg.yahoo.com/news/george-takei-hired-ellen-show-why-owes-career-185100109.html (see the last three paragraphs). I thus feel Mr. Takei's Stern Show appearances are notable enough to be mentioned in the introduction. 194.94.133.4 (talk) 17:41, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
The same argument could be made for Heroes, his many appearances on fan-based Trek reincarnations, and his recent fame on Facebook. But all of these receive their own section in the body of the article. The introduction needs to focus on who Takei is and what the average reader would find him noteable for. Akuvar (talk) 18:45, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
George Takei has been regularly appearing(as the official announcer) on The Howard Stern Show, arguably one of the most well-known radio shows in the USA for six years now. This show has been instrumental in introducing George Takei as a personality (vs. as just "that guy who played Sulu") to a considerable audience. He himself credits the show for being largely responsible for the resurgence of his career (look at the big gap in the 80s and 90s. also see omg link above). I do not think a similar argument could be made for Heroes, a (now discontinued) show where Takei played a comparatively minor character appearing in 13 episodes. He is not even mentioned on the series' main page (Heroes_(TV_series)). I also do not see how fan-based Star Trek reincarnations would fit in there. Apart from those being nowhere near as significant to the average reader I assume he is appearing there as Hikaru Sulu, his most famous role which is already mentioned? You might have a point about the Facebook fame belonging in the introduction, though. Of course, overall he is most notable for playing Sulu, but in the past years he has been much more "visible" as a member of the Stern Show crew and through his Facebook page than as an actor, don't you think? 88.73.27.231 (talk) 23:19, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
I think people who listen to the Howard Stern show think he is well known from there. If you never ever listen to the Howard Stern show, you probably wouldn't know he is ever on it. I went to the Howard Stern page on Sirius XM and it does not list Takei (to provide an analogy to your Heroes comment). An entire section of the article is devoted to his appearances on Howard Stern, but it is not what makes him most noteable. Akuvar (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Ethnicity

Earlier an editor changed the introduction of George from Japanese-American to simply American citing WP:MOSBIO. I read this and at first agreed with it. But the more I thought about it, the more I thought that, except with George's sexuality being in the news, his ethnicity is one of the most notable things about him. He was cast as Sulu because of his ethnicity, his work with human rights and the japanese american museum are related to his ethnicity, and most of the roles he gets are in part from his fame and in part from his ethnicity. I vote to restore the descriptive japanese-american back into the introduction because I think it meets wiki guidelines for notable ethnicity. I have a feeling if you asked George about this, he would agree. What do others think? Akuvar (talk) 00:35, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Green Berets

Removed the clause "the only pro-Vietnam film made during the Vietnam War", since, first, The Green Berets as I understand it was pro-USA, not pro-Vietnam; and second, I doubt it was the only one anyway. See Talk:The Green Berets (movie) for discussion on this point, and feel free to revert the change if it ever gets cleared up. —ajo

The Green Berets was absolutely pro-Vietnam War, just like its star John Wayne, and it was certainly the only film ever made to support that obscene conflict.

At the discussion page for The Green Berets are listed two other pro-war movies made during the war. The claim to uniqueness, then, is at least controversial if not false. Anyway, it's not clear how the politics of that movie is relevant. So I'm removing the line. -The Sarcastic Fringehead

George Takei in Futurama

He also was in the s06e04 episode of the Futurama, voicing himself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GolerGkA (talk • contribs) 14:58, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Ethnicity

While he is notable for specifically being a prominent actor with japanese ancestry, i think i read somewhere that we should be cautious about leading an article with someones ethnicity. national status, yes, ethnicity and culture, not so much. i will try to research it among the numerous guidelines here. I would prefer his ethnicity be mentioned in his early period biography, and when it becomes notable in his career, specifically his role as Sulu.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 22:34, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Adventure Time

(From Adventure Time Wiki) Takei also plays Ricardio in "Ricardio The Heart Guy" [1x07] and is also heard narrating the preview for "Incendium." [3x26] In season four, he reprised his role of Ricardio in "Lady & Peebles." [4x19] I'm surprised no-one else has mentioned this. bjshnog 01:42, 29 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjshnog (talk • contribs)

Full film and television listings?

I think the idea of people jumping in on this page and adding every little thing George has ever done a little over-the-top. In fact, I think adding all this stuff begins to detract from the article as a whole, who wants to read page after page of every commercial and television show he has ever appeared on? Can't we just have a link to his website and to IMDB and be done with it? I vote to get back to making this article about what makes this person noteable, not for every bit of film he has appeared on. Akuvar (talk) 16:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree --Valentingalea (talk) 14:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
I was really hoping more people would weigh in on this discussion. It has been 6 months and only one other editor has posted a note. Meanwhile, IMO, the random statements about what the subject has/is/did appear in continues out of hand, usually with no source or reference. To me it is minutia and the article is weaker for its length. Akuvar (talk) 05:11, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
As a (mostly) casual visitor I agree. If I want a complete listing of his appearance in media I can go to IMDb (since that's what it's for). On Wikipedia I want to find more info on the person George Takei. There is quite a lot of info but the section about his various appearances in TV, film etc. is drowning the interesting facts. 85.228.186.74 (talk) 22:45, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
I did some major overhaul to this, removing everything I thought was simple IMDB trivia. I did use some judgement about items that I felt were noteable during his career. I think that, with the propensity of people jumping in here and adding any little tidbit everytime George appears somewhere, that we will need to watchdog this new "philosophy" for a while. Akuvar (talk) 15:28, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Any reason he doesn't just have a Filmography or Works like most other articles have? 17:29, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
So... here's an idea. Instead of removing singular sentences, why don't you just make a Filmography section? I mean, anyone can remove chunks of information, but it takes a real editor to actually improve... Hearfourmewesique (talk) 13:37, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
The thought was that this article should stick to wikipedia standards, things that make a person noteable, and that we would leave a filmography to the folks over at IMDB. George does a lot of appearances and guest work on a lot of different projects. This article used to be incredibly long and for a person coming to find out, "who is George Takei?" It was un-readable. As you can see, we originally posted the idea of removing the full filmography listings back in 2010 and response has been fairly positive. The re-work of the article was a lot of work so I'm not sure why you decided to take a dig at editors removing material. Akuvar (talk) 15:34, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Let me be clear - I didn't mean to sound pretentious in my last post - I don't make the rules here. If you think the article needs a filmography section, go ahead and build it. Originally, people were pilling the stuff into the decades sections of his biography. Perhaps if we had a filmography section at the bottom, readers who didn't want that could bypass it. I just feel strongly that we should keep the listing-style compilation of all his work out of the biographical sections above. Akuvar (talk) 15:41, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Just so we're clear... do you really think that filmography has no encyclopedic value? Is this why 99% of articles about TV/film personas have those sections? Hearfourmewesique (talk) 18:07, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
No, I never said that. To be clear, I said that this article previously had filmography/imdb-style listings all through the biographical sections, specifically the decade-by-decade descriptions of the subject's life. All this trivia bogged the article down and made it unreadable. We removed it and kept only items that seemed to be significant to the subject's life or helped define who he is. In hindsight, moving all that to a filmography section would have been fine. If you wish to create a filmography section then I would not oopose it, though with IMDB just a mouse-click away, I won't put any effort into it. Akuvar (talk) 01:42, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
"with IMDB just a mouse-click away, I won't put any effort into it." This shows your collaborative spirit at its best. Just stay away from the article (and from Wikipedia, if you can) so that I – or another editor that gives a rat's @$5 – can begin improving it and not just skimming random parts. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 19:09, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
Your belligerence is unwaranted. Editors can pick and choose to work on, or not work on, whatever they wish. This discussion has no place on this Talk page. I will write a comment on your Talk page. Akuvar (talk) 20:30, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
No, it's you who's belligerent, nipping the work of other editors while refusing to do the proper thing. If you won't put any effort into improving it, why bother at all? Hearfourmewesique (talk) 18:47, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
I think his appearance on 'Psych' is notable because it specifically depicts him as himself and references his prior career. It may also be his first appearance as himself in a fictional TV program, although I didn't put that in the article since I don't have a source for it currently. (If I find a source for that, I'll add it.) I reworded it to be shorter and also to focus more on Takei's role personally, but I think this belongs here at least as much as the references to 'Heroes' and 'Allegiance'. If it belongs in "Filmography" then all of these should be moved to "Filmography", instead of arbitrarily deleting some while keeping others. Shelbystripes (talk) 16:28, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
At the very least, the article should contain a selected filmography of more prominent works as recommended by WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers (see WP:FILMOGRAPHY). Presenting it only in copy and saying everyone who wants to find out more should just "click through to IMDB" is doing a disservice to our readers by making it more difficult to easily find content. I'm going to throw together a basic table now and then add it to the page. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 23:06, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Actually, given the above, I'll wait for consensus before doing so. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 23:24, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm surprised this article makes no mention of the catchphrase he has become to be associated with in recent years - "Oh My!" - wouldn't this be considered encyclopedic for him? 74.97.39.13 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:19, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

The Animated Series September 8,1973 - October 12, 1974

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Animated_Series Should be added.Easeltine (talk) 15:51, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Spousal names

As per the bio on George's official site, Brad's last name was legally changed from "Altman" to "Takei" in 2011. How should the article reflect this, given that various mentions of Brad are from both before and after 2011? DS (talk) 03:23, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Takekuma Takei

The reference for George's father's birthplace does not say his father was born in San Francisco, only that he was San Franciscan:

"We were Americans: my mother was born in Sacramento, my father was a San Franciscan, um, my siblings and I were born in Los Angeles." (emphasis added) The Ed Show, January 04, 2013. "Stereotyping Asian-Americans": George Takei interview, 05:36

Simply residing in San Francisco allows one to be called "San Franciscan". George twice uses "born" to describe family members while not using "born" to describe his father, all in the same sentence.

Sources which state Takekuma was born in Japan and educated in San Francisco:

  • Takekuma “Norman” Takei at the Japanese American National Museum's Remembrance Project. The article is allegedly written by George Takei
  • George Hosato Takei (1937–), in the Central Arkansas Library System's Encyclopedia of Arkansas History & Culture. It contains a list of resources for additional information, but does not specifically cite which one (if any) the information on Takekuma came from
  • "Takekuma had come to America from Japan at the age of thirteen with his older brother and his widowed father. ... Takekuma attended public school in San Francisco and later graduated from Hills Business College." Dickerson, James, L. (June 1, 2010). Inside America's Concentration Camps: Two Centuries of Internment and Torture. Chicago: Lawrence Hill Books. p. 111. ISBN 978-1556528064 (found via Google books)

I am unsure of their reliability so I am not adding them to the article, but combined with George's own phrasing in the video, I am removing the "father was born in San Francisco" part. Thundersnow (talk) 16:08, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Another source: In an interview George states his father was born in Yamanashi Prefecture, Japan, and was brought to the US when he was 10 years old. Archive of American Television interview @ 1:25 This confirms the Japanese birth but muddies the water as to Takekuma's age when he arrived (ten given in the interview, twelve on the Remembrance article, and thirteen in the Arkansas Encyclopedia and Dickerson's book), although I suppose that is unimportant in the article about his son. Thundersnow (talk) 16:58, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Introduction

There have been several attempts to add Takei's booming popularity on facebook and social media. Someone added a banner saying the intro needed work, especially with Takei's new found popularity with a generation who doesn't even connect with him because of Star Trek. I added a paragraph about his facebook popularity, gave a citation, and removed the banner. Another editor reverted it with little explanation. I have reinserted it and ask that people improve upon it rather than remove it if you do not like it.StarHOG (talk) 19:44, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Starfleet Academy Casting and Appearance

It is not mentioned in the comment section but it is a notable fact that George Takei was a cast member in the live-action cutscenes of the 1997 PC game "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" by Interplay. For reference and more information, please see this related section in the Wikipedia article for the game itself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Starfleet_Academy_%28video_game%29#Production

Could someone please add this information?

This may be pedantic, but Lt. Sulu did not have a first name when he was first cast by Gene Roddenberry. (Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikaru_Sulu). Thus it's inappropriate to use "Hikaru Sulu" when talking about anything prior to Star Trek VI. Nasukaren (talk) 23:40, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Tiberius wasn't introduced to James T. Kirk until the animated series, but James Kirk's wikipedia page lists him as James Tiberius Kirk. Is it inappropriate to give a fictional character's whole name even if they didn't start (created) with that name? What about other historical tidbits we collect along the way about a fictional character's life? I am adding the first name back into the article. (BTW, why was this discussion posted under Starfleet Academy casting?) StarHOG (talk) 15:44, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

pronunciation

Does someone with a good grasp of IPA & the IPA templates want to add the pronunciation of his name? Most sources (including Takei himself e.g. in this video at 4:40) say it's ta-kay (rhymes with okay), but ta-kai is commonly heard (e.g. that's the one used in Family Guy, perhaps in reference to William Shatner's refusal to pronounce it correctly). --76.28.236.209 (talk) 19:09, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

The Japanese pronunciation is tah-keh-ee which when pronounced at speed rhymes with "okay" (oh-keh-ee). The other pronunciation is just plain wrong on multiple levels. Shatner is the most unreliable of sources imaginable. 130.132.173.113 (talk) 07:19, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Anti-liberal website

An anonymous editor posted an article about racist comments uttered by Takei. The article appeared on a website whose title labeled it as "exposing & combating liberal media bias" not as a source of news or information. The author of the article, IMO, was incorrectly interpreting Takei's comments in order to create a sensation. The article is here, http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2015/07/02/george-takeis-racist-rant-clarence-thomas-clown-black-face#.g0dxyg:NmXW — Preceding unsigned comment added by StarHOG (talk • contribs) 18:59, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hosato becomes George

Has anything ever been written about when, how and why Takei took on the name George? I can make reasonable guesses, but would be interested in his account. --Khajidha (talk) 23:37, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Whoops! Just noticed the very inconspicuous sentence about this.--Khajidha (talk) 23:38, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

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Takei Hosato

Japanese Wikipedia says this is Japanese: 武井 穂郷 -- 70.52.10.192 (talk) 09:18, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Sexual assault

Takei's sexual assault allegation section needs a serious reconsideration within the scope of the article. Unlike other sexual assault cases, this one involves a single claim that has been denied by Takei and been further scrutinized upon further investigation (please see [2]). Per WP:BLP, we need to be careful with how content is covered in Wikipedia regarding living people. I propose to remove the section (thereby removing it from the table of contents) and to reduce its contents within another part of the article, placing greater care in providing proper balance for the information.--MarshalN20 ✉🕊 02:46, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

  • I'd actual support removing all mentions of it. Feels like a WP:NOTNEWS issue, the sole allegation (since partially changed) didn't have the same effect that other post-Weinstein allegations did.LM2000 (talk) 05:09, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
It's a relevant part of his personal life, as it has affected his public image and career, so deleting it is not necessarily a suitable answer. Nonetheless, placing undue emphasis on it is also not appropriate. Regards.--MarshalN20 ✉🕊 23:22, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
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