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Gerry The Evertonian[edit]

The Great Marsden From Liverpool, of You will never walk alone fame is actually an Evertonian. This fact is well known in Liverpool, that he changed his loyalty following the Green Serpent that is cash, into the Kop end of Anfield.

More recently The Freudian slip on Look North West (May 2006) When Marsden was asked about the late Freddie (of the dreamers), he said "He was a good manc (unian) we used to talk about football when Everton played Man United". He then corrected himself and said "I mean Liverpool". 92.40.196.102 (talk) 19:56, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are quite correct, Marsden was an Evertonian who turn-coated. I've known that for years. However it's now more widely known thanks to Cavern DJ Bob Wooler publicly confirming that Gerry was an Evertonian so I've altered the article accordingly, as well as removing the false claim that Liverpool supporters were the first to adopt 'You'll Never Walk Alone', Celtic fans adopted it years before Marsden had even recorded it, never mind before the Kop started singing it. Cilla Black was allegedly a turncoat Evertonian too, although it's hardly the same situation (Marsden actually went to Goodison, Cilla has never been inside either ground. Then again, at least Marsden has never mocked Everton publicly as far as I know, unlike Cilla - I imagine she'd be very upset if too many people in Liverpool found out that she's a turncoat Evertonian who has spent the last 45 years taking the piss out of the team she once supported). In the early to mid-60s it became fashionable for these "professional Scouser" celebs to follow Shankly's Liverpool with the Kop and the rest of the hype (Tarbuck's another mouthy Kopite, but he least he actually always was a Kopite). That's why they turncoated. Maybe with Marsden it was the adoption of his song by the Kop as well. I don't really know how anyone can take him seriously as a Liverpool supporter, nobody turncoats at the age he was if they are a real supporter of a club unless they are a plastic glory hunter or some other form of phoney. Notice the Beatles - the ones who actually had real talent - never jumped on the bandwagon and professed their love for Shankly's Liverpool even though some Kopites still try to claim that they were all Liverpool supporters and we now know that not one of them was/is a Liverpool fan. Two Evertonians, a Tranmere fan and an Arsenal fan! Even Pete Best is a Blue. They'll have to make do with turncoat Gerry. MarkB79 (talk) 19:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Address in an area previously known as Lancashire, renamed as Merseyside[edit]

I have changed the lead-ish section to include both of the above areas. The content was changed from 'Merseyside' to read "Lancashire" in this change by Samuel J Walker on 23 October 2016.

I trust by including both with an explanation that this is satisfactory, whereas I don't feel that simply 'Lancashire' was encyclopaedically correct without historical clarification being included into the prose.--86.29.222.228 (talk) 11:56, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we need either. I've left Lancashire in the infobox.

Liverpool is well known, and has only a tenuous cultural connection to Lancashire. West Lancashire is rural, East Lancashire is that county of "Pennineshire" which sits between the West Lancs and the Yorkshire Riding and has more in common with itself than with either flank. "Liverpool" does not gain much here from being associated with its county, and I've linked it for the benefit of anyone really wanting to find it on a map. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:40, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Technical problems??[edit]

Is anyone else discovering the technical difficulty we are facing from this device? We cannot seem to edit the article, yet we can edit the talk page, and the possibility of editing other articles seems open. Anyone else experiencing this? Anyone know when the maintenance fault will be resolved? --92.40.197.131 (talk) 15:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]