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Citation needed?[edit]

The remark about the origin of the name coming from a book is tagged as needing a citation! this must surely be ironic, the sentence is itself a rambling form of citation!  Fixed--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 11:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note regarding 31 March 2010 rewrite[edit]

The following conversation regarding the rewrite of the article has been copied here from User talk:Nev1. Nev1 (talk) 17:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nev1, can you take another look at this edit as it removes the references, co-ordinates & categories. I cannot work out from the comment what you intended. Thanks. Keith D (talk) 11:35, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found that the sources section from the article was copied directly from here (the website claims as much). The giveaway was the following extract: "Stocker, D., 1989, 'Review of G. Beresford, 'Goltho: The Development of of an Early Medieval Manor c. 850-1150 The Archaeological Journal Vol146 p627-9". It looked fine on the original website, but on Wikipedia the '' causes unusual italics. It could be that the author has double checked, but copy and pasting the bibliography suggest probably not. There are also some other phrases that have been lifted from The Gatehouse, eg: "medieval village settlement consisting of a moat, and crofts with buildings, seen as cropmarks and earthworks. Excavation in 1973 revealed an early medieval ringwork and medieval motte and tower. This is a site that has undergone a rare extensive and detailed excavation and was found to have had a complex history. This started as a Saxon defended manorial site and had the earthworks modified on several occasions (and timber buildings rebuilt) including use as a Norman castle". It could be that The Gatehouse copied from Wikipedia (the wayback machine doesn't have a copy of the relevant page), but my experience with the site is that it's generally reliable, and while it does sometimes link to Wikipedia when the author of the site thinks it worthwhile, I've not seen direct phrases lifted from Wikipedia without quotes before. I intend to go through the article and properly source it, but in the meantime, all the sources previously listed in the article are linked to so anyone researching the subject can still do so easily. Not easy to explain all that in an edit summary. Nev1 (talk) 12:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How's this? It's a lot shorter, but it's more focussed on the settlement rather than the hall and is now properly sourced (bar the etymology). If you're ok with the changes, I can leave a copy of this conversation on the article's talk page. Nev1 (talk) 16:11, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all the effort to improve the article. I was thinking that may be you had meant to cut the text instead of what you had done, so did not want to just revert it out. Keith D (talk) 16:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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