Talk:Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2016

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July 13, 2022Good article nomineeListed

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2016/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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I will get on with this one fully today! --K. Peake 07:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead[edit]

  • Should the amount of points be listed in the infobox?
  • Maybe add "and performed by Argo." at the end of the first sentence instead, making the second only a mention of the selection for the 2016 contest in Stockholm?
  • "on 9 February 2016, while their song" → "in February 2016, a month before their song" removing the 10 March part from the end of the sentence
  • "a music video for the song" → "a music video for "Utopian Land"" with the wikilink
  • Pipe introduction of semi-finals to Semi-finals in the Eurovision Song Contest per MOS:LINK2SECT
 Done Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Background[edit]

  • "thirty-six times since" → "36 times since" per MOS:NUM
  • You need to add the appropriate source(s) for the sentences after the first one here
  • "The nation has won" → "To this point, the nation had won"
  • "for the 2004, Greece has managed" → "for the 2004 contest, Greece managed"
  • "was twentieth place," → "was 20th place,"
  • "Greece placed nineteenth in" → "Greece placed 19th in"
  • ERT having been in charge of their entry from 1974 to 2013 is not sourced
  • "on 11 June 2015." → "on 11 June."
  • "The new ERT then confirmed their intentions" → "ERT then confirmed Greece's intentions" to be less monotonous
  • "at the 2016 Eurovision Song Contest" → "at the Eurovision Song Contest 2016" with the wikilink
  • Most of the last para is not backed up by the Wiwibloggs source
  • "while the last time the nation selected" → "while the last time Greece chose"
  • "an internal selection (both artist and song)" → "an internal selection of both artist and song"
 Done, but with some rewording so please feel free to recheck this section. Grk1011 (talk) 14:08, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Before Eurovision[edit]

Internal selection[edit]

 Done Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion[edit]

  • "on 10 March" → "on 10 March 2016"
  • "they were joined by" → "they were joined by the likes of"
  • Remove wikilink on RiskyKidd
 Done Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At Eurovision[edit]

  • Img looks good!
  • Remove wikilink on ERT1
  • Pipe ERT HD to ERT Sports
  • ERT World and ERA 2 are not sourced
  • Removed ERT World, but ERA 2 is mentioned in the sentence by its full name Δεύτερο Πρόγραμμα της Ελληνικής Ραδιοφωνίας (second program). Grk1011 (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove pipe on ERA 2
 Done Grk1011 (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Performances[edit]

  • Img looks good!
  • "on 2 and 6 May," →"on 2 and 6 May 2016,"
  • Not all of the outfits info is sourced
  • Pipe LED to Light-emitting diode, but this part is unsourced
  • Where are the respective 22 points sourced?
  • "and the first time that Greece was" → "and the first time that the nation was"
  • "were not surprised by the result, since" → "were not surprised since"
 Done Grk1011 (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Voting[edit]

  • The related part and jury members are not sourced
  • "to Cyprus (televote) and Russia (jury)" → "to Cyprus through televote and Russia through jury"
 Done Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Points awarded to Greece[edit]
  • Good
Points awarded by Greece[edit]
  • Good
Detailed voting results[edit]
  • The jury are not sourced
 Done Grk1011 (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

  • Copyvio score looks pretty good at 32.4%!
  • Remove independent.co.uk from ref 3, citing The Independent as work/website
  • Remove reuters.com from ref 4
  • Wikilink BBC News on ref 5
  • WP:OVERLINK of Wiwibloggs on refs 9, 11 and 21
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues and WP:OVERLINK of European Broadcasting Union on ref 16
  • Pipe OGAE Greece to OGAE on ref 17
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues and WP:OVERLINK of Wiwibloggs on ref 34
 Done Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • You missed the overlink of European Broadcasting Union. --K. Peake 06:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

External links[edit]

  • Good

Final comments and verdict[edit]

  •  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; my main problem is the original research level. --K. Peake 08:54, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Kyle Peake: Thank you for another in depth review! I have made all of the changes you've requested, with a couple comments above. Please let me know if you catch anything else. Grk1011 (talk) 14:08, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Grk1011 You still haven't removed the overlink of European Broadcasting Union that I mentioned twice. --K. Peake 07:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kyle Peake That's not a GA requirement or a requirement at all per WP:OVERLINK: Citations stand alone in their usage, so there is no problem with repeating the same link in many citations within an article; e.g. |work=The Guardian. Grk1011 (talk) 13:11, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Grk1011 Why are you inconsistent with wikilinking them in this article if this is the case? Also, ref 3 needs a publisher. --K. Peake 09:16, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kyle Peake Should be all set now. Mistakes can happen when you're requested to fix things that aren't wrong; they don't stand out like actual errors. Thanks again for such a detailed review! Grk1011 (talk) 12:49, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Grk1011 It seems strange that this is a persisting issue, but sources like European Broadcasting Union and WiwiBloggs aren't consistently wikilinked; the overlinking does not matter, rather that it seems to be done randomly... --K. Peake 21:32, 11 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Grk1011 This is not fully consistent though, like refs 25, 29, 30 and 36 not wikilinking the EBU article for instance. --K. Peake 07:34, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kyle Peake Did a final read through. Looks consistent now. Let me know if anything remains. Thanks. Grk1011 (talk) 13:43, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Pass now, don't see any remaining issues! --K. Peake 09:32, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]