Talk:Gregory Campbell (politician)

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Please revert this edit. There is no source for the claim he is styled "The Honourable", and according to the relevant article MPs are not entitled to the style in writing. This is confirmed by Some Traditions and Customs of the House, page 2 stating "People outside Parliament often think that the use of "Honourable" in the Chamber translates into the style of address to be used when writing to Members. It should be stressed that this is not the case. In the UK, unlike certain other Commonwealth countries, a Member is simply addressed as "Henry Smith MP", or "Ms (Mrs) Jane Smith MP"; not "the Hon Henry (or Jane) Smith MP"; this last form of address would be used only for the son or daughter of a peer who was not entitled to any other courtesy title." DanceHallCrasher (talk) 13:23, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done st170e^talk 15:45, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality question[edit]

Regarding recent edits, which version do people think is preferable from a neutrality perspective?

"a self-confessed loyalist" -- new version favoured by Special:Contributions/86.151.34.39 (spelling corrected)
"He has referred to himself as a loyalist" -- previous version, and favoured by myself

The rationale behind my preference for the earlier version is as stated in this edit summary.

Any views please?

Many thanks, --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 19:31, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the comments which I made in the edit summary linked above, your attention is drawn to the references to "confess" at WP:SAID. --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 20:48, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it seems that despite notification on user talk, the editor who favours the "self-confessed loyalist" version has not yet responded to this discussion, neither have they provided any rationale for their version via the edit summary (either intially or when reverting). Therefore, in view of the style guide which specifically cautions "be judicious in the use of admit, confess, and deny, particularly for living people, because these verbs can inappropriately imply culpability", and the fact that the context does indeed relate to a living person, I am going to reinstate the version which avoids the term "confess" pending such time as anyone else engages with this discussion. If you agree or disagree, please say something. Thanks. --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 01:16, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Previous version is indeed better. Mabuska ^(talk) 11:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is obvious that he is indeed a loyalist but your version is less POV.Apollo The Logician (talk) 14:12, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the agreement. By the way, it's not actually a version I wrote, just existing text that I was restoring. I suspect that the current UK political situation is likely to lead to more than usual editing activity on DUP-related articles. This calls for every effort to keep everything as neutral and dispassionate as possible. --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 21:14, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Outdated infobox[edit]

He's no longer the Minister of the (dissolved 5 May 2016) Department of Culture, Arts and Leisure (DCAL) is he? Especially as he is no longer an MLA? BushelCandle (talk) 16:41, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Strange removal/insertion of categories[edit]

As I write this, our article (correctly) says that Campbell is the current Member of Parliament for East Londonderry - and, indeed, has been since 7 June 2001.

Can anyone, therefore, explain why he should not be categorised as one of the Members of the United Kingdom Parliament representing Northern Ireland constituencies from 1922 onwards, but instead categorised as elected to the House of Commons of the United Kingdom for constituencies in County Londonderry, before the partition of Ireland in 1922!?!

These are the relevant two edits I question:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregory_Campbell_%28politician%29&type=revision&diff=787357826&oldid=787355463

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregory_Campbell_(politician)&diff=prev&oldid=787316963

BushelCandle (talk) 23:53, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry @BushelCandle, that should of course have been Category:Members of the Parliament of the United Kingdom for Londonderry constituencies (since 1922). I didn't spot my error first time, but it's now fixed. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:01, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your very prompt, complete and gracious response, Ma'am.

I can see how easily it happened but I did spend quite a while puzzling about the second reversion... BushelCandle (talk) 00:08, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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