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Public Act 377 of 2012[edit]

As of Dec 18, 2012, a "Permit to Purchase" (or License to Purchase as it's called) is no longer required when buying a handgun from an FFL dealer 21 & over but is still required for private sellers.

174.252.244.122 (talk) 04:01, 23 February 2013 (UTC) Redxii[reply]

This is also incorrect. A handgun requires a LTP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:408:402:D980:5CFD:F0CB:4B33:88C4 (talk) 11:33, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the table[edit]

"Handguns must be registered with the city chief of police or county sheriff." This note is not valid. The chief of police has nothing to do with the process of registration. The License to Purchase LTP must be dropped off at your local police department. Nothing more takes place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:408:402:D980:5CFD:F0CB:4B33:88C4 (talk) 11:33, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, with this edit. — Mudwater^(Talk) 23:52, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Major Edits[edit]

Some major edits were done 11/15/2015:

1) A lot of clarification made that pistol purchase permits are only required for a non-CPL holder that is purchasing from a private seller. Any CPL holder or any person buying a pistol from an FFL does not need a purchase permit.

2) Fixed an outright error about magazine restrictions. Previously it said there are restrictions. There are not. In fact, to my knowledge there have never been any MI based magazine restrictions, only the old federal ones. So I have no idea where this misinformation came from.

3) Handguns are registered in MI, the source stating that is its "recorded but not registered" was a political entity that is notoriously inaccurate in its knowledge about gun laws. Pistols get registered, and police do regularly check registrations of pistols when they pull over a CPL holder, so it is most definitely a state-wide registration in end effect.

4) The wording that open carry in a vehicle needs a CPL is misleading. The law simply recognizes all vehicle carry as concealed. I made that more clear.

5) CPL holders open carrying in concealed carry restricted zones is not very "arguable", regardless of the fact that it hasn't been specifically upheld in court. No cases of someone getting prosecuted for it exist either. The AG opinion has been completely accepted, including MSP update #86 telling law enforcement to enforce it that way.

6) Since no mention of needing the old "safety inspection" existed in the article the note that it is no longer required is not necessary.

To do yet: There's a lot of places where the wording in here clumps together federal regulations and state regulations as if they are all state regulations. This is confusing and inaccurate. Effort should be made to reword many things in here to make clear what is MI law as opposed to federal law. I did a little of this. For example simply stating that CPL holders can open carry in otherwise "state defined" concealed carry free zones, as opposed to the old wording which listed off a lot of federal gun free zones as if they were MI gun free zones that were exempt from the CPL holder/open carry concept. However, there's still a lot to fix on this concept in this article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Grezb (talk • contribs) 22:09, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]