Talk:Habesha peoples/Archives/2022/May

Ahmed Gragn

The page used to claim he was Harar. An IP address user made him Somali. I removed his ethnicity. @Magherbin: restored it to Harar. Our Wikipedia page for the guy gives academic sources that assign him three different ethnicities. It seems odd to be more certain here than the editors of the person-specific page are able to be. What's the advantage of mentioning his ethnicity at all here? Pathawi (talk) 22:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

I'd say drop it. If the article on the subject doesn't definitively specify his ethnicity, then I'd just as soon not see that uncertainty reflected in this article, as well. (This isn't terribly helpful, but FWIW I've been around Wikipedia long enough to see that Ahmed Gragn ostensibly belonged to each one of the Somali clans.) -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:26, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Pathawi, Harar was a region and in the modern sense a town not an ethnicity, one can be Arab, Somali etc and be from Harar as well. The reference claims Ahmed became leader of Harar in its heyday which led to an invasion into Habesha. Ahmed is technically Emir of Harar via his marriage to Bati del Wambara. His ethnicity is not useful for the article but where his power base lied is. Magherbin (talk) 23:33, 20 February 2021 (UTC)