Talk:Hard to Love, How to Love

Merger proposal

I propose merging the article Will You Be Okay? into this one, Hard to Love, How to Love. Both articles are short, and are unlikely to be expanded any further - the information just doesn't exist to do so. A lot of what is on the song article is duplicated on the album article. After all, most songs do not merit individual articles, per WP:SONGS. Additionally, the album article has little content, and would be improved by the addition of what's on the song article. Instead of stringing out the little information we have into several articles, let's work to make one quality article on the Hard to Love, How to Love album. :)

Since no one spoke up, I completed the merge. Please help improve this article further! :) Shinyang-i (talk) 08:27, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

@Shinyang-i From what i know about the merging process, you are supposed to notify the creator on their talk page or other editors that have made changes to the article if there is no one to start the discussion for the merger. But i just wanna ask, how are you going to put the chart ranking of the song into the album page? But since you've already merged it so, it;s okay. But the next time when you merge an article, i think it would be better to notify some recent editors or the creator of the article to discuss about the merger :) --Deoma12^(Talk) 06:40, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, I'm doing tons of song merges, and these pages get edited by so many people, it's hard to know who the "important" people are to notify. Since there are templates right at the top of both the target and source articles, it's pretty easy to see. So it's unlikely I'm going to start notifying a bunch of individuals, just as a matter of practicality. There are hundreds of song articles in kpop that never should have been created, so I'm doing an enormous amount of work cleaning them up. There's really not much to discuss and as they are uncontroversial merges because the songs all fail the notability requirements at WP:GNG and WP:NSONG and would otherwise be deleted, so I'm actually doing more than most people do in this situation by even posting a notice at all. :) As far as your question, song charts don't go on album articles, per the albums MOS. If you put them on there, someone will eventually come along and remove them. The song stats can and should be be cited in prose. Generally, I've been citing them as I go along and fixing all the broken references (and I do mean ALL; ALL the ref links have been broken for charts and it takes hours to fix them all. If you do any, please please archive them at archive.org or webcitation.org), but I certainly could have missed some, so feel free to add anything. It's not desirable to list the chart placements for every single digital song, just the promotional singles. If someone really, really cares about every single song's chart placement, they'll go to Gaon and find out. Feel free to continue improving the article with reliably-sourced information. This is a good album, so I look forward to seeing the article continue to improve. :) Shinyang-i (talk) 07:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Just chiming in to say the non-single songs' chart placements should be on the artist's discography page under "Other charted songs". :) Random86 (talk) 08:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh yeah, thanks, I always forget about that! :D Shinyang-i (talk) 21:14, 26 February 2015 (UTC)