Talk:Helen Wilson (mathematician)

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I have started work on this draft, but there is a way to go yet before it's ready for submission. David Colquhoun (talk) 22:04, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Yann: I can't imagine why you think that there was a copyright violation with HelenWilsonMaths cornwallphoto.jpg My information by the person who took the picture, Helen Wilson's husband. David Colquhoun (talk) 11:28, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David Colquhoun,

There is a copy here, and for any previously published work, a formal written permission from the copyright owner is needed. Please see c:COM:OTRS for the procedure. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Yann: Yes I understand that. I thought that the picture was taken by Helen Wilson's husband, Jeremy Bradley. Since he took the picture, I presume that he owns the copyright. But I'll leave that to Wilson & Bradley to sort that out with you. I'm told that they'll send a sharper version than the one you have already.David Colquhoun (talk) 22:06, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG and SwisterTwister: Apart from getting two pictures approved, this is now ready for checking

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Who made a wrong insertion on this page?[edit]

Under 'awards'in the infobox, two extra items appeared (FRS 1985 Humboldt prize 1990). Oddly, these apply to me, not to Helen Wilson). I've removed them so it now appears correctly again. Can you tell me how they got in? David Colquhoun (talk) 23:06, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@David Colquhoun: Added by User:Charlie Awesome as part of this edit: diff. Look like an honest mistake, but it might be worth confirming that Prof Wilson was indeed at Clare. Jheald (talk) 09:44, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@David Colquhoun: What may have happened is that you based the infobox on the one from your own page, commenting out the prizes which didn't apply. Charlie saw them there in the code of the page, without realising they were inapplicable, and transferred them into the infobox. Jheald (talk) 09:49, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why the warning on this page?[edit]

The warning on this page seems unnecessary, not least because it suggests dishonesty. I wrote the page, and asked Helen Wilson for facts only when I was unsure of them. We are both at UCL, but she's a mathematician and I'm a pharmacologist. David Colquhoun (talk) 23:06, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

David Colquhoun it doesn't suggest dishonesty. It suggests that what happened was against policy. It is against the COI policy to edit articles about yourself, and the subject of this article added over 2,000 characters of text. Perhaps don't ask people to edit articles about themselves in the future. Enwebb (talk) 00:49, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Enwebb 1. I didn't ask her to add stuff, and 2. the policy of Wikipedia is quite inconsistent. Additions that are well-documented and factual are allowed by many editors, if discussed with them. Pages would very rapidly become out of date if their subjects were banned altogether from updating them. Obvious self-promotion should be banned. Factual additions should surely be allowed? David Colquhoun (talk) 10:12, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

David Colquhoun per WP:COI:

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A Wikipedia article is not a CV nor a LinkedIn--it isn't yours to change as you will. See also WP:DISCLOSE. Enwebb (talk) 14:58, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]