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Pretty Racist Article[edit]

So the only pictures of native people that could be found are ones after they started dressing in Non-Native American manner. To this day there are pictures, graphics that depict the natives in their original attire. How come none of the so-called editors, etc of Wikipedia choose to include them? I get blocked when I try to correct the racism in Wikipedia article so I am stuck posting in the TALK section. When will the biases against non-white humans end?? --2604:2000:DDD1:4900:B5FC:4ED7:8687:22F9 (talk) 16:31, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsensical and insulting ranting doesn't help matters. The European images of the American Indians portray them in the clothes they were wearing at the time of contact and, if anything, are "orientalized" with a fascination by their otherness. What do you think "true" Native American clothing consisted of? — LlywelynII 23:15, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, awful article. they still got that land bridge crap right up top even tho its been disproven for years Bangi Gekek (talk) 17:14, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#History[edit]

The content of this article was copied from Native_Americans_in_the_United_States#History which is a very long article which would benefit from creation of this subarticle. References here need to be cleared up and that section edited and summarized. User:Fred Bauder Talk 17:57, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of History of Native Americans in the United States's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "remini_submit_adoption":

  • From Muscogee people: Remini, Robert. ""Brothers, Listen ... You Must Submit"". Andrew Jackson. History Book Club. p. 258. ISBN 0-9650631-0-7.
  • From Native Americans in the United States: Remini, Robert (1977, 1998). ""Brothers, Listen ... You Must Submit"". Andrew Jackson. History Book Club. p. 258. ISBN 0-06-080132-8. {{cite book}}: Check date values in: |year= (help)
  • From Choctaw: Remini, Robert (1977, 1998). ""Brothers, Listen ... You Must Submit"". Andrew Jackson. History Book Club. p. 258. ISBN 0-9650631-0-7. {{cite book}}: Check date values in: |year= (help)

Reference named "perdue":

Reference named "remini_reform_begins":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 13:19, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lead is way too long[edit]

By my count the lead contains 23 paragraphs. But WP:LEAD says:

The appropriate length of the lead section depends on the total length of the article. As a general guideline—not an absolute rule—the lead should normally be no longer than four paragraphs. The following suggestion may be useful:
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Can someone break up the lead in a way that is consistent with the flow of the rest of the article? Thanks. Duoduoduo (talk) 21:46, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Nonsensical sentence[edit]

There is a sentence at the end of the paragraph starting, "The Clovis culture," which is in the "Native Development Prior to European Contact" section, that makes no sense. It reads, "The culture is identified by the distinctive Clovis point, a flaked flint spear-point with a notched flute, by which it was insecarbon-dating methods produced results of 11,050 and 10,800 radiocarbon years BP (roughly 9100 to 8850 BCE)." I would fix it but I don't know enough about the topic (or have any idea what the writer was trying to say). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.255.64 (talk) 16:12, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe 'History' is a Misleading Title[edit]

I don't know the precedent for this and it might be pedant but 2/3 of this article isn't history, it's prehistory until columbus and then it's parahistory for at least another 100 years; for the sake of movement between articles it doesn't seem to make much sense to be able to go from History of Native Americans to Post-Archaic Native America. In wikipedias own "History" article it reads, "History is the study of the past as it is described in written document," yet I think someone forgot to cite the document used to prove the claim, "The history of Native Americans in the United States began in ancient times tens of thousands of years ago with the settlement of the Americas by the Paleo-Indians," a vague, boring, and contradictory opener to a confused article. I don't think it requires a conflicting source case for us to change the category, name, and maybe even split the article up and re-allocate the redirect links towards this article, thoughts? Mr. Mitochondria (talk) 06:06, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What about Canada and such?[edit]

History of Native Americans in Canada does not exist. Would it makes sense to rename this article to just History of Native Americans or such, as it covers history before US was established anyway? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Migration to the Americas section might need Updating/Rewrites.[edit]

New studies show that the land bridge was possibly not biologically viable for humans to have survived crossing until around 12,600 years ago. New research is showing that by that time, humans had already inhabited the Americas. Meaning they would have had to arrive before the land bridge was even remotely crossable. Some studies also seem to show that Coastal Migration is, seemingly, more plausible. Would it be possible for someone to either fix this, or at the least, update the information?

Coastal Migration Link. [1]

New Archaeological Evidence for an Early Human Presence at Monte Verde, Chile. [2]

Pre-Clovis occupation 14,550 years ago at the Page-Ladson site, Florida, and the peopling of the Americas. [3]

Simple technologies and diverse food strategies of the Late Pleistocene and Early Holocene at Huaca Prieta, Coastal Peru. [4]

MarineFool (talk) 05:36, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

Working on 19th century section[edit]

I have been researching Indigenous history within the United states and I would like to contribute to the 19th century section. I would like to add a brief introduction, giving an overview of what took place during that century. I would also like to add some more specific information about the some 300 plus treaties that took place during the 19th century.MistsofIxChel (talk) 17:36, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]