Talk:Holiday for Pans

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The references to Kenny Jackel are false. I've been friends with him for several years now and have been told a more accurate account of what took place. I will correct this article when I have time to get the whole story from Kenny.

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From JonViduya:

according to Milkowsky's book, with sources that seem rather credible, Kenny Jackel's involvement with the Holiday for Pan tapes, as mentioned here on wikipedia, seem close to accurate. The biggest pending questions are whether Pastorius actually played bass guitar on these tracks (whether in part or in full or at all), and how Jackel actually came into contact with Pastorius and the tapes; one account says that Jackel came into contact with the tapes during the time Pastorius was hospitalized, while Jackel's account claims that Jackel was an engineer during the actual sessions, which would include Othello Molineaux. In other words, was Jackel involved while these recording were being made (before the record company rejected the tapes), or did Jackel in fact come into contact with these tapes some time after the tapes were rejected by the record company and during the time Pastorius was hospitalized?

The only thing that seems accurate is that Jackel did not have had any rights to release this music (or to sell the tapes), and since "Holiday for Pans" has been banned from distribution in the USA, it doesn't seem far from fact that Jackel did not, in fact, have the rights, permissions, etc. to claim these tapes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonviduya (talk • contribs) 16:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other sources that know Jackel say that Jaco built up a large unpaid studio that the young engineer shouldered and the estate would not pay. Of coarse Jackel moved on with a very successful engineering career and eventually became a highly regarded studio designer. He was unconcerned with the false accusations that were made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.25.252.44 (talk • contribs) 08:01, 30 May 2008

I have never seen or heard that Kenny Jackel claimed full engineering credits and the albums themselves list several engineers. Secondly Jackel did not release Holiday for Pans himself, it is said that he sold Jaco's recording studio debit to a third party whom then became responsible to gain the rights to release the album. They never did but it may be because of the confused state of Jaco's estate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terrykantana (talk • contribs) 06:43, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]