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Updated Critique 8 November 2017

Hello Fellow Wikipedians!

I do have some suggestions to improve this article. Housing First is an important and relatively new policy. However, I am noticing that this article needs an update.

1. In the articles “General Principles” they make reference project-based and scatter site implementations, but make no reference to what those implementation types are. They also refer to scatter-site implantation in the “Outside the United States” section of the article. The following is an excerpt from Collins, Malone, and Clifasefi 2013:

“In the scattered-site Housing First model, residents are offered a choice of individual housing units located throughout a community. Additionally, residents can choose to access a variety of supportive services that are delivered using an assertive community treatment model. In single-site or project-based Housing First programs, residents are offered units within a single housing project, where they can elect to receive centrally delivered case-management and supportive services. Perhaps the most well-researched and widely cited single-site Housing First model is the one established in the 1990s by the Downtown Emergency Service Center (DESC) in Seattle, Washington.2,8–12”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3969126/

Including this information would be important for readers to understand the difference between scatter-site and project-based Housing First. Additionally, information regarding the preference of recipients and effectiveness of the two models would strengthen this article and give more insight into the implementation of Housing First. It is important to define these two implementation types and not assume the reader will automatically know meaning and difference between the two.

2. The article mentions in the “General Principles” that the goal of Housing First is that it:

“offers permanent, affordable housing as quickly as possible for individuals and families experiencing homelessness, and then provides the supportive services and connections to the community-based supports people need to keep their housing and avoid returning to homelessness.”

It would help if in the “Evidence and Outcomes” section there was a study that measured the retention rate of participants in the Housing First program. It will help readers to know if the Housing First model has a lower or higher retention rate that tradition housing programs.

For example, Tsemberis et Eisenberg 2000 found that “Clients in linear programs were less likely to remain housed (47% at five years) compared to clients in Pathway to Housing (88%).”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10737824

3. Last, there needs to be a more literature regarding the limitations of this policy. All of the cities this policy has been implemented are large, left-leaning cities. I believe that this policy has been implemented in more U.S cities and the article needs to be updated. Furthermore, there needs to be more literature regarding the economic feasibility of this policy in not just larger, well-funded cities, but also its possible implementation in smaller suburban cities with dense homeless populations.

Thank you! Mkarceo (talk) 04:13, 9 November 2017 (UTC)mkarceo (talk) 20:13, 8 November 2017 (UTC).

I am doing a classroom project

Khampton45 (talk) 23:30, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Sources

https://psmag.com/social-justice/landlords-recreation-essential-housing-first-program-81439 Graywalls (talk) 05:26, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

A request has been submitted to WikiProject United States for a new article to be created on the topic of Housing in the United States. Please join the discussion or consider contributing to the new article. Best regards, -- M2545 (talk) 08:20, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

What is it the name of exactly?

The article uses "Housing First" as if it's a generic term. But if it were, it would probably have the grammatical structure of a noun phrase, and would surely not be capitalised. So clearly "Housing First" is the name of something. But what?

Possibilities I can see:

  • It's the name of the US government's policy specifically, and therefore uses of the phrase to refer to housing policies in other countries or the general concept are nonsensical.
  • It's the name of the US policy specifically, but sources not specifically about this are referring to the concept by this name for want of a generic name.
  • It was originally just the name of the US policy, but other countries have copied the name to use for their policies, either modelled on the US one or just with the same basic objective. Thus the US policy called Housing First, the proposed UK policy being referred to by this name and any other countries' policies, actual or hypothetical, whether they share the name or not, are distinct entites. But this begs the question of whether anybody owns it as a trademark. Can governments trademark the names of policies they enact?
  • It was originally just the name of the US policy, but it has become genericised. But then I would have expected it to have become lowercased in the process.
  • It is the title of an essay written by somebody proposing a housing policy. And so by claiming that a country or part thereof has Housing First, you are claiming that it has the policy as described in that essay.

Can anyone shed some light? In any case, I think the article needs to be refactored to reflect the status of the name, whatever it is. And maybe split or retitled if need be. — Smjg (talk) 13:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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