Talk:Howard Flight

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Howard Flight's parents and family history[edit]

Who are Flight's parents? I've done a quick search and can't find anything about them (the results are clouded by the fact that Flight is currently in the news over his statements about families, so I'm not suggesting anything sinister).

Any politician's family history is of interest to me, as their history may explain some of their political positions. Were they born in the UK? What did they do for a living? Were they wealthy, poor, or somewhere in between? I'm not talking about publishing their name and address in the article, but some basic facts about his parents would be of interest to me and, I suggest, to others. At the moment, it looks as if Flight came into the world at about the age when kids first go to school! --Theresonator (talk) 22:02, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to this site Howard Flight was "influenced by his father who ran Natwest's trustee and income tax department." I'm still looking! --Theresonator (talk) 22:22, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mind the biographies of living persons policy. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Howard Flight is a public figure. If general information about his parents can be reliably sourced, I don't see any reason not to add that information to the article, as long as the information which is added doesn't reveal too much private information. --Theresonator (talk) 22:55, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Only wanted to make you aware, there's a policy you can read and which might help you with your edits. Gwen Gale (talk) 09:20, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your guidance. I'm doing OK so far. Edits that I've made haven't caused any trouble. Most of it seems like common sense. --Theresonator (talk) 14:05, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, most of it is :) Gwen Gale (talk) 14:50, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was not moved. Better known by his non-titular name. --rgpk (comment) 20:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Howard Flight → Howard Flight, Baron Flight. Relisting in hopes of broader discussion. Orlady (talk) 05:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Best known for his controversial statments and subsequent deselection by Michael Howard during the 2005 General Election, not as a peer. Also no disambiguaiton is required for this article title.--Lucy-marie (talk) 15:16, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support. WP:NCPEER is quite clear. This chap is no longer wholly or exclusively known by his pre-peerage nomenclature. Kittybrewster ☎ 15:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose in the strongest possible terms for consistency in naming per policy and guidelines like WP:COMMONNAME, WP:TITLE, WP:D and WP:PRECISION that apply to all Wikipedia article titles. The subject is most commonly known by the current title; adding peerage information is additional precision that is completely unnecessary, all good reasons to ignore WP:NCPEER. --Born2cycle (talk) 19:54, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

B2C's arguments are bogus, because the policy WP:TITLE explicitly permits topic-specific naming conventions such as WP:NCPEER. Kittybrewster ☎ 20:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Politicians who have been ennobled are almost invariably known by their titles thereafter. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:41, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - This is not a Crystal Ball and what they are currently known is what we have to take as the current commonly used name. If in the future the individual is known regularly by their ennobled title then that would be grounds to change the article title. To though say, it is expected that the names they are known by will change is not how things work on Wikipeida.--Lucy-marie (talk) 17:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, known as Howard throughout his career.--Kotniski (talk) 12:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.