Talk:Howard Lederer

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"needler"[edit]

"Also, at the World Poker Tour Grand Prix de Paris 2003, Lederer refused to shake hands with notorious needler Tony Guoga when eliminated from the tournament." - what's a needler? --Dijxtra 16:48, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To "needle" is to tease or berate or criticize opponents. A "needler" is someone who does that. 2005 21:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lawsuit[edit]

Lederer, and a few other players, (I can't recall all their names right now) recently filed suit against the WPT. Details are a bit vague so should this be added? If so, how? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.184.83.41 (talk • contribs)

Just link to Sherman Act Lawsuit. Essexmutant 07:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WSOP Bracelets[edit]

Most professional poker players have a little table showing their World Series of Poker bracelets (what/when they won). I'd like to see one for Lederer. I can't do it myself as I have no idea what bracelets he holds. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.231.219.17 (talk) 11:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

if you say so?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.82.90.194 (talk) 14:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chess talent?[edit]

I would suggest taking off the chess talent mentioning since Lederer was never chess talent. It's true that he dreamed about becoming chess professional but he was never even near the FIDE master (2300) or even Candidate master (2200) strength. Lederer's current USCF rating is 1951 which is "first class" player strength - far from being chess talent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.103.208.61 (talk) 16:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Duke[edit]

@in 2002, Lederer publicly criticized Daniel Negreanu for making inappropriate comments about Duke@ -- who's Duke?? 206.47.141.21 (talk) 16:42, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See first sentence of article, his sister. 2005 (talk) 20:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish?[edit]

user:AndyBloch told me on his talk page that Lederer's mother is Jewish. In my view this makes Lederer also Jewish, the same way that it makes any 50% African American/50% caucasian person African-American. I'm open to other people's input on how Wikipedia handles such classifications but in my view this makes him Jewish by birth DegenFarang (talk) 07:48, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would tend to agree. Lederer is also a Jewish name, so he is definitely halachically Jewish (even though I believe he is a practicing Buddhist and an atheist). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.72.27.204 (talk) 03:28, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I removed this category. --Malerooster (talk) 19:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just to clarify, I said Lederer's father was born Jewish, not his mother, so he is not "halachically" Jewish. I don't think he'd characterize himself as a "practicing Buddhist" either. AndyBloch 11:33, 28 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndyBloch (talk • contribs)

Any valid reason to remove this category? While he might not be Jewish by most definitions he does have Jewish ancestry, which was the category you removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.170.116.23 (talk) 04:58, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not a Pro Poker Player[edit]

This guy's net worth is well over 100 million and less than 4 million of that came from playing poker.

He's probably the biggest shareholder and one of the founders of Full Tilt Poker, a multi-billion dollar internet poker company.

Something should be done to correct this. He's not a pro poker player. He barely plays at all, and when he does it's just to get TV time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aa45955 (talk • contribs) 04:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Criminals[edit]

Is there a WikiProject Criminal this page could be tagged with? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.195.123.55 (talk) 01:20, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New draft for this article[edit]

{{request edit}}

Hello to anyone reading this, I have been working on a new draft for this article and I'm hoping to find editors to review it. Before I discuss the draft, I'd like to explain that I have a conflict of interest with the subject of this article, as I am working on behalf of Proof Integrated Communications, which has been building a new website for Lederer's sister, Annie Duke. The company were hoping to link to this article from the website but had some concerns about accuracy of information included, particularly around his personal life and involvement with Full Tilt Poker. (In the interest of full disclosure, I should note that User:WWB Too, with whom I work, has previously written a new draft for Annie's article that was reviewed by editors earlier this year.)

Due to my COI, I will not edit this article, but I have prepared a draft to address the issues that I see. The draft is in my user space here: User:16912_Rhiannon/Howard_Lederer.

Though this current article is fairly well developed, there are some weak spots and inaccuracies that I've addressed in my draft. Here are the major changes between my draft and the current article:

  • I've revised the introduction to this article as there is too much focus on the Full Tilt Poker lawsuit. Currently, two of the introduction's three sentences address Full Tilt Poker and no information is given on other aspects of his career. I believe that Full Tilt should be mentioned but there should be more balance with information about his poker career, which is he is most well known for.
  • I combined the Early life and Personal life sections to create a new Early life and family section.
  • For the Career section, I've introduced subheadings to group different phases of Howard's career and updated information where needed.
  • The section on Full Tilt Poker in the current article is out-of-date and needed expanding to properly explain the sequence of events. I've expanded and updated this section, and changed its name as I believe that the use of the word "scandal" in the section heading Full Tilt Poker scandal is in violation of WP:LABEL and should be changed to the more neutral and inclusive Tiltware LLC and Full Tilt Poker, under which there is a sub heading for U.S. Department of Justice lawsuit.
  • I have added a section titled Charitable activities for the information on Howard's charity poker events which is currently covered in the Personal life section.

Other minor changes include:

  • Updating Howard's year of birth to 1963. (The current article lists both 1963 and 1964, 1963 is the correct year.)
  • Updating Howard's nickname from "the Poker Professor" to the more commonly used "The Professor".
  • Updating Howard's tournament winnings, since the current 2010 figures in the article are out of date.
  • Removing unsupported and trivial information about the nickname "Bubba" from the article. This sentence currently carries a [citation needed] tag. I've looked for a reliable source on this nickname but haven't been able to find one. (Since I posted this message on the 20th an editor has removed this statement from the article.)

Thanks in advance for reviewing this request and my draft. Please let me know if you have any questions at all and feel free to comment here or in my user space if you have thoughts about the draft. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 22:10, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was asked by the above editor to review his draft and it seemed pretty good, but would defer to others. Its also difficult to find balance in bios whenever there are "controversies" surrounding the subject. How much weight should be given and how to write in a neutral tone can be a challenge. I did remove the category covering Lederer's ethnic background.--Malerooster (talk) 19:46, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved the draft version over. I looked it over and it's very well written and properly highlights and discusses the controversy. I don't see any way someone could say that it isn't neutral. SilverserenC 03:38, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much Silverseren, very grateful for your review. I just noticed there's a space missing between "launched" and "Full Tilt Poker" in the intro, its no big deal, but if someone can fix that would be great. 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 13:56, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed it. SilverserenC 18:16, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Really appreciate it - sorry I missed this til now. 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 00:37, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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