Talk:Huitzilatzin

Huitzilatzin was a History good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
May 13, 2007	Good article nominee	Not listed

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GA Review[edit]

I've put this on hold, but I'm seriously close to failing this one (no offence, and that applies to all I am going to say)

Problems:

The article is 3.8KB approx., and probably about half of that is notes. In fact, I dont think it would be irrational for someone to actually mark the article as a stub. Please, expand at least probably by twice. I know size can often not be a huge factor in GA noms, but 3.8KB is just out of the ballpark.
An obvious factor that comes with length is also more depth for the 1. information that is already there and 2.the information that is to (hopefully) come. Please, expand the article and explain as much of you can. Perhaps a 'Background' section might be possible, explaining or giving some more factual information/context/depth to the text (maybe give more information about the civilisation that he ruled?). A 'Later/Future Rulers/Successors section may also help. Adding these contexts provide a cheap disguise (for want of a better word) for the real lack of information that you have on the main subject, but can also help give some good, useful background information for readers to compare the main subject to. These contexts can lengthen an article considerably.
While this is not an actual problem, it would certainly serve as a bonus in my mind to the article - an image or two. Images can often provide much valuable information, and are quite common is GAs.

Positives:

Many references (although, as aforementioned, comprise about half the actual article). Try to find sources for the 'citation needed' information.
A few categories.
Nice use of two infoboxes.
Many wikilinks.

Summing Up:

Most things are ok, but length is the major problem - the article is simply too short (and, if I may say, too stubbish) to be a GA at the moment, or even a B class. Also, try and work on finding some images. A bit of background information would also be appreciated, perhaps on the region, other future rulers and/or other relevent information. You have 7 days to make this GA standard, so I think you should really work on this, otherwise I'm going to have to fail this. I hope you are able to make the necessary improvements in the allocated time. Sincerely, —A • D ^Torque 10:33, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Failed[edit]

Gave you a week, no changes; subsequently failed. Thanks, —A • D ^Torque 06:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]