Talk:I'm a Good Ol' Rebel

A fact from I'm a Good Ol' Rebel appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 April 2018 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that upon hearing the Confederate song "I'm a Good Ol' Rebel", the future King Edward VII requested a repeat performance of "that fine American song with the cuss words in it"?

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Lyrics?[edit]

Do we have the lyrics available? I'm assuming they are public domain as the author has certainly been dead for over 70 years. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see they were added by Exoplanetaryscience but removed by The C of E citing WP:NOTLYRICS. This seems to me a similiar situation to The Internationale or the Tantum Ergo. Its a historic folk song that is out of copyright that most readers will not know. They will want to see the lyrics. I'm saying this using my "reader of Wikipedia" hat as I was very confused and disappointed not to find them here when I came to this article, especially given the DYK hook. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:26, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I support keeping the lyrics. They're not obstructive to the content or excessively long. As for a reasonable length in WP:NOTLYRICS, the lyrics were 1.7 kilobytes compared to the 4.6 kilobyte page at the time, only about a quarter of the (very small) article. exoplanetaryscience (talk) 00:07, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored them. They would look better in one of the boxes/charts/tables that we put lyrics in, but I can never figure out how to do those. Its in the body of the article now, though, so someone with more skill in that area can fix it. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:16, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tune[edit]

In this article I see the tune described as being Joe Bowers (song), however Hoyt Axon's rendition is very clearly from Son of a Gambolier. Not sure that there's a definitive answer of which one is authoritative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.248.247.218 (talk) 16:50, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Portrayals in Media[edit]

This song was sung very early on in the 2007 movie “The Assignation of Jessie James by the Coward Robert Ford”. It may prove notable because it is one of the very few mainstream media sources to hear this song in the 21st Century. If not already pointed out, the melody of this song was used in many other folk songs with totally different lyrics. This includes one about coal mining and sung at the beginning of the classic early 1970s documentary “Harlen County, USA”. I lack the ability to edit official entries, but I am hopeful an editor with the required skills may read this and will cite and document this properly.

Point Lookout[edit]

I've tagged the (unsourced) attribution of "starved at Point Lookout" to being a reference to the Battle of Lookout Mountain as dubious - Point Lookout was a POW camp for Confederate soldiers captured for Gettysburg and fits better in several ways. If the connection to Lookout Mountain can't be sourced, that note needs removed. Hog Farm _Talk 20:46, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's been no response here or change in the article, so I've removed the dubious note. Hog Farm _Talk 16:27, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]