Talk:IDEN/Archive 1

Totally Disputed and Unreferenced Tags

2007-06-03 I'm adding this tag to a portion of the hardware section of this article, because it seems like there is editorializing going on here. Namely the passage which reads "iDEN is an excellent technology, and if Nextel and Motorola had not kept iDEN proprietary, it would have been a contender for one of the most spectrum efficient and feature unique world-standards, at least until the introduction of UMTS. Even now that GSM has finally adopted a push-to-talk standard, iDEN is still the best performer in regard to latency."

Are there any factual articles or sources to back up this claim? What makes iDEN an excellent technology over say, CDMA or GSM? Are there studies the writer can point to that compare iDEN's purported superiority over other wireless air interfaces? Without such references to back up this claim, it seems to me these claims are just biased opinion.

Also, there is no mention of data and 3G related services. Does iDEN surpass the competing air interfaces when it comes to packet-switched data and voice?

As an aside, there seems to be no mention at all about the issues the public safety sector is having in the US with iDEN, that are resulting in Sprint/Nextel (the largest US iDEN operator) having to go through a rebanding process. See Nextel#Nextel_U.S._operations_interfere_with_police_and_fire_radios.

The article also seems to be lacking in references. I'm adding that tag as well.

• 7/7/2006: How about a comparison (or link to comparison) with CDMA, GSM, etc... it'd be nice to see a grid comparison regarding the different technologies and capabilities... what speeds, land mass coverage, security, versitility (voice only, voice+data, etc)... something would be nice. I'd throw this further down in the discussion but it seems like it'd be an easy chart if anyone has data/sources for it

• I changed the claim that "most" competing technologies use 12.5 kHz per channel, to say that "some" competing technologies use 12.5 kHz per channel. If you're comparing to IS-95 CDMA, the technology that is most often positioned against iDEN, my understanding is that it isn't really an apples-to-apples comparison with regard to bandwidth. If you're comparing to GSM, it puts 8 conversations into the bandwidth of an analog channel. --Nate 23:45 Feb 19, 2003 (UTC)

• On March 9 a large edit was done to this page. Unfortunately the text was copied verbatim from a Geocities page. If you are the author, and you have permission from the author/copyright holder to use the text that was posted, please post that information here before restoring the text. You may also want to review Wikipedia's copyright policy. The contribution is appreciated but you must have permission. --Nate Silva 21:52, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

• The article states that WiDEN "was a planned upgrade," which implies it was abandoned. It hasn't been, in fact. (See WiDEN.) Anyone object to me clarifying that? --User:Justen 15:46 2005 May 27 (UTC)

• I agree that the tense should be corrected regauring WiDEN. WiDEN launch has definatly not been canceled, as I am told it is about to launch. Also, I belive the statment that iDEN will be phased out after the print merger is very speculative, and should be removed. It is doughtfull that iDEN as a technology will be phased out, as there is already significan capital invested in a working network. It is more possible that the network will be sold, or used for other purposes. --User:ComicMasta 04:08 2005 June 1 (UTC)

• Most of the comments on this page were taken into account when I did the edit about a month ago --Alohawolf 09:18, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

iDEN phones in Europe?

who cares

The Nextel phone contains a standard GSM SIM module. If one has purchased International Roaming from Nextel (SPRINT) then that SIM can be placed in a "OPEN" GSM Phone and used in Europe. I travel to Europe all the time and this is how I maintain the Telephony aspect from my phone.

Leaked photos of the new dualed Motorola iDEN-CDMA phones.

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http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=892205

Why don't we expand the base site resourses with lowest cost in the country area.

One iDEN EBTS sector site has 3 sectors,If we seperate 2 of them,and put the 2 seperated sectors to remote place,we can

make 3 omni sites. We only needed to add 2 time references and 2 pairs wireless communication equiments.Discussion with me[szcy2008@hotmail.com]

iDEN Carriers

Here's the different carriers supported by Motorola's iDEN Carrier Radio Service Software, version R01.16.16, based on the folders under program files\motorola\iDEN RSS\CSD:

Avantel Colombia
Boost
Default
DNA Comms
IMX Philippines
Jordan Xpress
KSA Saudi Arabia
KTP Korea
MIRS Israel
Motorola 900MHz United States
Motorola MM 900 United States
Motorola MM United States
Motorola NEXTEL United States
Motorola Test United States
Movilink Argentina
NeoWorld United States
NexNet
NEXTEL Argentina
NEXTEL Brazil
NEXTEL Chile  {{subst:UnsignedIP|1=65.242.46.2|2=17:48, 11 June 2010 (UTC)}} <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
NEXTEL Mexico
NEXTEL Peru
NEXTEL United States
Ozitel Australia
Pacific Wireless United States
PTC Saudi Arabia
Singtel Singapore
Sinolink China
Southern Linc United States
Star Singapore
Telus
Tricom Panama  

Family Guy Guy (talk) 20:23, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

IDEN Operator data

is there somewhere I can go to find the TNs of the IDEN carriers? For example, the GSM has IR21 data - does this information exist anywhere for IDEN? thank you ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sporterj (talk • contribs) 19:37, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Data speed

Or lack thereof. iDEN as implemented by Sprint/Nextel is slower than a 14.4 POTS modem. That's why their Boost Mobile phones with internet capability are configured to do most of their data transfer via WiFi. Of course then you have to have a nearby open WiFi router or know the login to one. Bizzybody (talk) 11:34, 15 June 2011 (UTC)