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Minor theatre credits — information needed[edit]

I've compiled a chart of Charleson's minor theatre credits (below). These include university, LAMDA, festival fringe, and workshop/reading roles. Also: less-documented roles, childhood roles, and small parts. In addition to the chart below, while in high school he performed many roles with The Jasons, an amateur Edinburgh group. In addition to the roles listed at EU, he also performed in dozens of less-documented plays there. Additionally, he directed and/or designed costumes for many plays there.

This list is by no means exhaustive. It is missing many productions. And the productions listed are missing various data. If anyone can accurately add to it or confirm the questioned dates, please do. You may reply on this page below the chart, or add to the chart yourself, or contact my via my Talk page. Thank you.

I don't think the parts in this chart are salient enough to be added to the Major Theatre Credits chart in the article. However, if the chart below gets more accurate and finished, it may be worth adding to the article separately, as Minor Theatre Credits or Selected Minor Theatre Credits. Softlavender (talk) 03:29, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Minor theatre credits[edit]

Year Title Role Director Playwright Theatre
c. 1958 Kith and Kin John New Restalrig Church Dramatic Society
c. 1961 A Resounding Tinkle Charlady John Whitworth N. F. Simpson
c. 1962 Coriolanus Young Martius Shakespeare Royal High School
c. 1962 Count Albany Clementina Donald Carswell Royal High School
c. 1967 Twelfth Night Malvolio Shakespeare Edinburgh University Drama Society
c. 1967 Edward II Gaveston Shakespeare Edinburgh University Drama Society
1967 The Homecoming Peter Farrago Harold Pinter National Student Drama Festival
c. 1968 The Importance of
Being Earnest 		John Worthing Oscar Wilde Edinburgh University Drama Society
c. 1968 What the Butler Saw Dr. Prentice Joe Orton Edinburgh University Drama Society
1968 Mandrake, the Musical Callimaco Peter Farrago Machiavelli (original)
Michael Alfreds
(book and lyrics)
Anthony Bowles (music) 		Edinburgh University Drama Society
at the
Edinburgh Festival
(George Square Theatre)
c. 1969 She Stoops to Conquer Tony Lumpkin Oliver Goldsmith Edinburgh University Drama Society
1969 Marat/Sade Herald Peter Weiss Edinburgh University Drama Society
c. 1969 The Flies Zeus Jean-Paul Sartre Edinburgh University Drama Society
c. 1969 Richard II Shakespeare Edinburgh Festival Fringe
1970 The Pantaloonatic Roger Savage Edinburgh Festival Fringe
c. 1971 Pilgrim's Progress Christian John Bunyan LAMDA
1972 The Merry Wives of Windsor Ford Shakespeare LAMDA
c. 1973 The Prince and the 45 Prince Charles Edward Edinburgh Festival
1973 The Statues in Room 13 Ian Taylor Reg Stewart Young Vic Theatre Company
The Studio
1973 The Incredible Vanishing Cob Denise Coffey Denise Coffey Young Vic Theatre Company
1974 Lilian Baylis Centenary Festival various various Young Vic Theatre
1975 Mrs. Grabowski's Academy Williams Jonathan Hales John Antrobus Royal Court Theatre
(Jerwood Theatre Upstairs)
1975 Valmouth Nit Sandy Wilson BBC radio live broadcast[1]
1976 Light Shining in Buckinghamshire[2] Caryl Churchill Traverse Theatre, Edinburgh (workshop)
1979 Who’s Taking You Home Tonight? solo singer devised by Charleson (revue of songs mostly from the 1930s)
RSC "extras", Gulbenkian Studio, Newcastle
1982 Selections from As You Like It,
The Seagull, Guys and Dolls 		various Shakespeare, Chekhov,
Loesser/Swerling 		The Roundhouse
(benefit with Vanessa Redgrave
for her Youth Training Centres)
1985 Where There's a Will Bernard Parry Barbican
(benefit for Ethiopian Appeal Fund)
1985 A Tribute to Michael Redgrave scene from Car Trouble Anthony Page Old Vic
1986 Edinburgh Festival
40th Anniversary Gala Concert 		monologue from
Richard II 		Shakespeare Edinburgh Festival
1988 Before the Act ensemble actor:
Hands Across the Sea 		Noel Coward Piccadilly Theatre (protest against Section 28)[3]
1988 Sondheim: A Celebration singer Playhouse Theatre (benefit for Crusaid)
1989 Julius Caesar, Hamlet,
Macbeth 		Brutus, Hamlet,
(unknown) 		Shakespeare Theatre Museum (Bardathon)
1989 Measure for Measure Angelo Shakespeare Riverside Studios (workshop)

Notes[edit]

  1. ^ Valmouth, BBC Radio Cast at CastAlbums.org
  2. ^ https://books.google.com/books?id=MW5jAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA186
  3. ^ http://www.mckellen.com/activism/section28.htm

Edit in "death" section[edit]

I wanted to explain my edit in the "death" section since it was rolled back. As currently written, Charleson, who was gay, was diagnosed with HIV in 1986" sounds as if it's implying that him being gay has something to do with his death or the fact that he got AIDS. This helps contribute to the incorrect stereotype that AIDS is a "gay person" disease.

If Charleson's sexual orientation is something that is important to his life as a celebrity, or he had relationships that are worth talking about, then there could be a separate section discussing that. Otherwise, I see no reason to mention it; do articles ever feel the need to make a point of the fact that a particular celebrity is straight? As it is, that part of the article comes across as anti-LBGT.

Gendoikari 82 (talk) 17:50, 30 May 2015 (UTC)gendoikari_82[reply]

  • Hi, there is no direct causality stated or implied (i.e. obviously all gay men do not and did not get AIDS), however we have to mention his sexual orientation somewhere, and this is the precisely appropriate place. No one (except close friends) knew he was gay before he died of AIDS, and after that was announced, everyone knew he was gay — and he became a gay icon precisely because he was the first celebrity in the UK to let his death be openly announced as from AIDS (similar to Rock Hudson in the U.S.). In point of fact, at the time Charleson acquired AIDS (sometime prior to 1986), AIDS was acquired only by gay or bisexual men, intravenous drug users, hemophiliacs, or (very occasionally) people who received tainted blood transfusions; by far the first group. It is certainly encyclopedic and necessary to mention Charleson's sexual orientation in this article and at that particular juncture. While I can fathom your concern, it is unfounded and extremely outdated. Softlavender (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree with Gendoikari 82 and revisit this topic following a reverted edit from an IP editor. I am fine about including a section on his personal life and there saying that Charleson was gay, but saying it at that point absolutely implies there is a link between being gay and HIV/AIDS. The idea that AIDS is a gay plague is what is outdated. Elsewhere in Wikipedia I have reverted labels such as 'Jewish American', which only make sense if we also label people as 'Christian Americans'. This is a similar case. That Charleson was gay is apropos of nothing in the section about his death. --Wavehunter (talk) 15:41, 25 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • I have edited the sentence to reflect the fact that this was during the AIDS pandemic. During the pandemic years of 1980 through 1994, the persons contracting and dying of AIDS were overwhelmingly gay, followed very distantly by intravenous needle re-users. Softlavender (talk) 23:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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