Talk:Ian Collins (footballer)

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I'm not so sure that the "OAM" should be in the article name. Wikipedia articles dont tend to place distinguishments like Dr or Sir in front of names, so why OAM? Also, most OAM recipient articles dont include it (see Category:Members of the Order of Australia). Thoughts? Remy B 13:45, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it sounds better than Ian Collins (businessman and Australian rules footballer)...because it wasn't just in one area that he was notable. R o gerthat ^Talk 00:20, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think Ian Collins (businessman) would be a suitable disambiguation. I dont think anyone would want us to list every occupation in the article name. Remy B 08:32, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing[edit]

Hi! I've been able to source most of the article, but I don't have a specific source for the break he had due to injuries in 1970. If anyone has something for that it would be neat if they could add it. :) - Bilby (talk) 04:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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Page moved back to Ian Collins (footballer). Vegaswikian (talk) 02:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Collins (Australian) → Ian Collins (businessman) – Relisted. Consensus is to move, can we narrow down consensus on the target? I see at least 4 with (businessman) having two in favor of. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:11, 17 July 2011 (UTC) "Australian" seems like an odd choice of disambiguation to me. Seeing as Collins seems to be more notable as a businessman than as a football player, I'm suggesting businessman instead, though I suppose Ian Collins (football) may also be suitable. Other suggestions also welcome. Jenks24 (talk) 06:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree it should be moved, but like you, I'm not sure what to move it to. I've noticed it whenever I've done a review of (Australian footballer) vs (Australian rules footballer) vs (footballer) that he sticks out as a one-off dab name. (businessman) is probably the best option, but he did play 161 games so maybe (Australian footballer) is the easiest and the most conforming/consistent with other articles option. The-Pope (talk) 06:53, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say he is now best known as a "(sports administrator)". Hesperian 07:03, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sports administrator sounds good to me. Orderinchaos 09:02, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've just found and added Ian Collins (soccer) to the disambiguation page which presumably rules out Ian Collins (football) as an option.Melburnian (talk) 05:30, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

'businessman' is better. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 07:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to Ian Collins (businessman). – ukexpat (talk) 17:54, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article does not mention any business interests other than football administration, so Ian Collins (Australian football administrator) is a mouthful, but clearly identifies him whether a reader is looking for a historic footballer or a more recent coach/director/CEO. --Scott Davis ^Talk 11:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I thought disambiguation titles were supposed to be a simple as possible? So how about just Ian Collins (administrator)? – ukexpat (talk) 14:51, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment from the article content I gather the reason he's notable is for his footballing past... therefore I suggest: Ian Collins (footballer), which already redirects to this article anyway. There is no conflict with Ian Collins (soccer) since American soccer players are not known as footballers and footballers outside of the U.S. are not referred to as soccer players. --Born2cycle (talk) 23:17, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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