Talk:Independent suspension

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Anti Sway Bars[edit]

This part of the intro is badly worded, contradictory and misleading: "It is common for the left and right sides of the suspension to be connected with anti-roll bars or other such mechanisms." = correct but extremely poorly worded (such mechanisms, it is common). "The anti-roll bar ties the left and right suspension spring rates together but does not tie their motion together." = blatantly wrong and misleading. And it also contradicts itself; affects spring rates but not motion??! Anti-sway bars do not affect the main suspension springs directly at all; they provide their own (usually torsion-bar) spring that is independent of main shock absorbers. They actually apply an limited upwards force to the inside turning wheel, and a limited downward force on the outside wheel. Where the limit of the force is based on the spring constant of the torsion bar.

The intro should really say "Independently sprung suspensions increase the risk of vehicle roll when in sharp turns as the wheel on the inside of the steering curve will compress its spring, and the outside wheel will extend; forcing the vehicle to roll[diagram][REFERENCE]. To counter rolling, anti-sway bars [LINK TO ANTI-SWAY BARS ARTICLE] are incorporated into independently sprung suspensions. Anti-sway bars apply a downward force on the wheel on the outside of the steering curve and a restorative upward force on the inside wheel; [anti-sway formula] [REFERENCE]." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.250.224 (talk) 15:30, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rubbish[edit]

"If you are looking for an offroad vehicle, stray away from the IFS systems. They break down easier and are more expensive. They offer less traction and less offroad driving ability." - This is total garbage —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.197.149 (talkcontribs) 11:27, 3 April 2007

  • Indeed it was. It seems that reversion of vandalism didn't go far enough to get rid of all of it. It's fixed now - for the time being at least. --Athol Mullen 11:36, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Picture[edit]

An explanatory picture would greatly enhance the article, me thinks.

Real world uses[edit]

The section called Real world uses reads like an advertisement for ArvinMertior/Arvinmertitor/whatever. I did not remove it because I wanted someone else to confirm that it is inappropriate. --Jessaveryja (talk) 04:52, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More Than Two Types[edit]

Where are the other types of independent suspension? There has got to be more than two types. I quote here from earlier in the article, "...but modern systems use Chapman or MacPherson struts, trailing arms, multilink, or wishbones". - KitchM (talk) 04:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]