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A fact from International Harvester Travelette appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 December 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the International Harvester Travelette (example pictured) was the first six-passenger, four-door, crew-cab pickup truck?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 18:15, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A 1961 IHC Travelette

... that the International Harvester Travelette (pictured) was the first 6-passenger 4-door pickup truck? Source: [1]

5x expanded by JackFromReedsburg (talk). Self-nominated at 18:48, 13 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Article looks good with a 5x expansion. No copyvio detected. The hook is verified and the image is licensed properly. QPQ not required being the first nomination of the nominator. MehrajMir (talk) 13:06, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, and added a "citation needed" tag to a paragraph that has a lot of facts without a citation. But I don't see the hook fact in either footnote 6 or 7. Footnote 6 just says the 4-door model was introduced in 1961, not that it was the first. It's unclear from the snippet view why footnote 7 is mentioning this truck. Yoninah (talk) 22:34, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I was able to get access to some newspapers from the time, allowing me to add new references to the article. I also linked the references in the hook. JackFromReedsburg (talk | contribs) 19:43, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@JackFromReedsburg: thank you, but what kind of RS is buyautoinsurance.com? Please remove that. And I don't see the hook fact in footnote 9 either. Yoninah (talk) 20:05, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I now realize that the buyautoinsurance.com source isn't the most reliable. It has been removed. And about footnote 9, here is the excerpt that I am citing:

Let’s start with the first ever four-door crew cab truck. You would think Chevy, GMC, Ford or Dodge would have been the first, but this is not the case. A crew cab, also known as a double cab early on, could seat up to six full size adults thanks to the second row with full-size doors on both sides. The first crew cab truck in the U.S. was made by International Harvester in 1957 dubbed Travelette and later followed by Dodge in 1963, Ford in 1965 and Chevrolet in 1973. So, believe it or not, Chevrolet and sister GMC were the last to produce the crew cab model.

More specifically: "The first crew cab truck in the U.S. was made by International Harvester in 1957 dubbed Travelette" (with crew cab being the name for a 4-door truck). JackFromReedsburg (talk | contribs) 19:27, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, I am still having trouble reconciling the hook with what you're writing in the article. The Paducah Sun reference that you added (note how I clipped the entire article, not just a piece of it) does not support the 6-passenger, 4-door model, as it speaks of a 6-passenger, 3-door model. I removed footnote 9 because it doesn't mention 1961 at all. Maybe you want to try another hook angle? Yoninah (talk) 18:05, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eureka! I found the proper cite in the ThrottleXtreme source and added it. Ready to go per Mehrajmir13's review. Yoninah (talk) 18:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead updates[edit]

Waxel61, currently the lead is in a good state, but may need a few extra details. Please do not revert this section again. Moreover, I do not see any details in your lead that was not already present in the lead beforehand. JackFromReedsburg (talk | contribs) 01:56, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How...?[edit]

... did this get to the main page with so much of it unreferenced? Perhaps Yoninah could explain? The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 08:21, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man, there's an explanation at DYK talk, there was a flurry of editing after move to queue. —valereee (talk) 10:32, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]