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Cleanup tag

I changed the cleanup tag for this article, so that the wikiproject can work on this and not have to worry about other people trying to fix this article without the knowledge. Of course, they are still welcome to try, but this is a U.S. Interstate Highway article, so, um, yeah. --Geopgeop 09:27, 1 November 2005 (UTC) (from the CA Hwy WikiProject, keep up the good work)

Exit list

Shields are shown at intersections with other Interstates.

Number Mile Destinations Notes
282A 282.25 Canby/Hubbard (Route 551) southbound exit and northbound entrance
282B 282.57 Canby/Charbonneau District exit 282 northbound
283 283.88 Wilsonville
286 286.18 Stafford/North Wilsonville (Route 141)
288 288.48 Interstate 205 to Interstate 84 - The Dalles/Seattle, Washington/West Linn/Oregon City
289 289.50 Tualatin/Sherwood
290 290.48 Lower Boones Ferry Road - Lake Oswego/Durham
291 291.30 Carman Drive - King City
292 292.20 Route 217 - Tigard/Beaverton/Kruse Way/72nd Avenue/Lake Oswego split into 292A and 292B northbound
293 293.30 Haines Street
294 293.80 Route 99W/Barbur Boulevard - Tigard/Newberg
295 295.04 Capitol Highway (Highway 1W) no northbound exit
295 295.53 Taylors Ferry Road northbound exit only
296A 296.34 Barbur Boulevard (Highway 1W) southbound exit and northbound entrance
296B 296.55 Multnomah Boulevard southbound exit and northbound entrance
297 297.17 Terwilliger Boulevard no southbound entrance
298 298.93 Corbett Avenue northbound exit only
299A 299.23 Route 43 - Lake Oswego southbound exit and northbound entrance
299A 299.76 Route 43/U.S. Route 26 east - Ross Island Bridge/Macadam Avenue/Lake Oswego northbound exit and southbound entrance
299B 299.52 Interstate 405/U.S. Route 26 west - City Center/Beaverton
300B 301.09 U.S. Route 26 east/Route 99E - OMSI/Oregon City (Morrison Bridge) southbound exit and northbound entrance
301 301.65 Interstate 84/U.S. Route 30 east - Portland Airport/The Dalles exit 300 northbound; US 30 joins northbound and leaves southbound
302A 302.35 Rose Quarter/City Center - Broadway/Weidler Street (Broadway Bridge)
302B 303.15 Interstate 405/U.S. Route 30 west - Beaverton/St. Helens (Fremont Bridge) US 30 joins southbound and leaves northbound
302C 303.16 Greeley Avenue - Swan Island northbound exit and southbound entrance
A California exit list can be found off the Calnexus (Caltrans) site. A Washington list can be found off their DOT site too. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 23:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

The exit numbers dont stay the same, each state has its own exit numbers based on how many miles they are from the southern most part of the state, this is for north and southbound. --Logsta 03:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

There is a northbound exit ~300. It doesn't go directly to the Morrison Bridge or Belmont St., but it puts you in the same area and generally provides an equivalent to southbound 300B. Also, I think the 299As are switched and ODOT does not number exits for highway ends. Jason McHuff 10:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

traffic counts

If anyone is interested in adding busiest/least busy stretches of I-5, this is a good reference. —EncMstr 06:49, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Highest point on the I-5?

There seems to be some confusion about the elevation of the I-5 at Tejon Pass. This article formerly refered to the elevation of Tejon Pass as "over 4,400 feet," while the Tejon Pass article itself has its elevation as 4,183 ft. A quick peek at Google Earth suggests that the elevation at road level is 4,160 ft. The official federal GNIS system also lists Tejon Pass at 4,160 ft. Anyone be able to help out here? NorCalHistory (talk) 17:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, I understand that the elevation sign on the I-5 itself says "elev. 4144 ft" which doesn't match any other official source. I'll give it another day or two, and then I'll change the Tejon Pass elevation to the GNIS elevation, with a footnote regarding the elevation sign. Suggestions? NorCalHistory (talk) 07:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

We had a similar problem with Forester Pass in Pacific Crest Trail. See the infobox "Highest Point" footnote 2 for how it was handled. —EncMstr 07:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Removing non-notable material

IMHO, information about accidents, road closures, etc., are just not notable enough for Wikipedia. I've done a quick random check of other Interstate articles, and I didn't see any similar entries in the ones I checked. For example, after the earthquake in the early 1990s in Southern California, a main portion of I-10 was closed for a year, while a bridge was entirely re-built. That closure is (properly) not included in the I-10 article. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I think a good "rule of thumb" test is "What would a reader in Mozambique be interested in learning about the I-10?" Unless the accident/closure leads to some significant after effects (like a portion of the road is re-routed and re-built), I just don't see it as notable. (That field-burning accident currently in the article probably really should come out as well or be reduced to a footnote - there are lots of similar accidents around the country every year (dust storms, fog, etc). I haven't moved it/removed it yet only because it led to a new law being passed. However, especially if its presence continues to attract accident/closure type entries, I believe that it should be moved/removed!) NorCalHistory (talk) 15:30, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

The rebuilt section of I-10 should be mentioned in that article. I believe it is mentioned in the staet detail article. --Rschen7754 (T C) 07:50, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Nickname for I-5

Since I-5 terminates in the south on the border with Baja California and in the north at the border with British Columbia, it can affectionately be called the "BC-to-BC highway". --  Denelson83  03:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I-11

Why does I-11 redirect here? —Tamfang 17:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Because under one system considered for numbering, I-5 would have been present-day I-580, I-80, and I-205, and present-day I-5 in Sacramento and Stockton would have been I-11 Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 22:29, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Major intersections section

Any particular reason why this section privliges short, 3-digit Interstates over longer, 1-and-2-digit state and U.S. Highways? (E.G. CA 1 and 99; US 12, 20 and 50; OR 22) Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 22:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Build dates

anybody got any build dates on this thing. or did it just show up one day?

I came to this article to find that out. Certainly I think the information is necessary. As far as California, "The route was resigned to the present-day route numbers in 1964 as part of the regularization of state and legislative route numbers." This link gives California history divided into "1928-1963" and "post 1964"

http://www.cahighways.org/001-008.html#005%7CCalifornia

96.251.199.246 (talk) 23:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)billybob

West Coast Green Highway

Maybe someone could integrate: http://www.westcoastgreenhighway.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.78.103.19 (talk) 12:32, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Control cities

"Interstate 5 links to control cities in ... Washington (Tacoma, Seattle, Everett, Mount Vernon, and Bellingham). North of Seattle, the control city is Vancouver, British Columbia". That's a contradiction. Everett, Mount Vernon, and Bellingham are also north of Seattle. So what is the control city north of Seattle? Is it Vancouver? Is it Everett, Mount Vernon, and Bellingham? Or are all four considered control cities – in which case Vancouver should be called A control city north of Seattle, not THE control city? Art LaPella (talk) 01:55, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Either way, this is unsourced, and (IMO) too trivial of a detail for the lead. IMO, it's more appropriate in the Route description section. As such if nobody can provide a correction, I say delete it.

Finished date

The article Interstate Highway system has a section of milestones in the history of construction. IMO, one key milestone that is missing is the date of completion of Interstate 5 (as the only border to border Interstate Highway). Sadly, this article is only of moderate help in determining that date. There is a webpage used as a source for another detail on the article for the Interstate Highway system that claims the last piece of I-5 to be dedicated was in Oregon in 1966. However, this page has problems. It's writing style and fact organization are very similar to the wikipedia article, and I strongly suspect this article was lifted or based on the wikepedia article (and if so would be called a WP:Circular reference). Second, that claim is contradicted by the reliable source used for this article (I-5) that portions of I-5 in California were still under construction well into the 1970s. I will note that the source claiming I-5 was completed in 1966 is not totally offbase. I did find this apparently reliable source confirming that the Marquam Bridge was indeed dedicated in October 1966, and this was the last piece of I-5 in the state of Oregon to be dedicated. Can anybody help me out here. Will the real final piece of I-5 please stand up? Dave (talk) 04:11, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

If I'd only been more patient [1] confirms the FWHA source ... nvm. Dave (talk) 04:24, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
According to HistoryLink, the final segment of I-5 in Washington was opened to traffic in 1969. [2] 24.113.186.84 (talk) 01:17, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
It should also be noted that Interstate 69 will also eventually become a border-to-border Interstate, although in South Texas, the route will divide into I-69W (Laredo), I-69C (Pharr), and I-69E (international bridge at Brownsville) similar to how I-35 divides into east and west branches between Dallas-Fort Worth and again at St. Paul-Minneapolis. The Laredo branch will end at I-35 which itself terminates into the city street grid before reaching the border, and the Pharr branch ends at Interstate 2 quite some distance north of the border. When completed, I-69 will become the second Interstate leaving Mexico to cross the US ending at its current terminus at Port Huron, MI. Although likely at least a couple of decades away from completion, I-69 is the only other Mexico-Canada Interstate proposed at this time. Fortguy (talk) 08:47, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Capitals

I-5 has exits in the capitals of each state it passes through -- including Jefferson. Is there another interstate that does that? - Keith D. Tyler (AMA) 23:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there is I-25 (New Mexico, Colorado, and Wyoming) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.212.62 (talk) 07:08, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

History

The history section seems sparse on dates. Completed in '79, for example, but when was construction started? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.129.196.61 (talk) 14:59, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Untitled comments

Somebody removed I-105 in California from the list of spurs. I put it back because even though plans to build the connection between I-5 and I-105 never materialized, it belongs in the list and it should be discussed here. If they didn't want I-105 to be a spur, the powers-that-be would either decommission it or give it another number. -- Gpietsch 00:05 Sep 22, 2002 (UTC)

And of course the 105 does intersect the 405, which is itself a spur of the 5. Dontcha just love LA freeways? --Brion
There's prior art in New Jersey. I-78 does not intersect any of its spurs, and I-195 did not intersect I-95 until a section of the New Jersey Turnpike was redesignated as I-95 in 1982! -- Gpietsch 22:10 Sep 22, 2002 (UTC)
Yes, this is old news, but just so there's no confusion: since I-105 connects between TWO I-5 spur routes (I-405 in the west, and I-605 in the east), it is indeed a spur route of I-5. Spurs of spurs are not that uncommon: San Francisco has I-380, which only intersects one I-80 spur (the 280.. and US-101), yet still is a spur of I-80 by extension. Weirder: since I-80 technically only begins AFTER the South Embarcadero Freeway ends before it would meet up with the road signed as "I-80" (though even then, it technically isn't Interstate grade, and there's some controversy as to whether or not it's "I-80" at that point), and the City of San Francisco has kinda broken the routing with recent construction in Mission Bay, I-280 can be said to never touch Interstate 80. It's not just Los Angeles freeways that are weird. - Feedle 05:08, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Ok forgive me if I'm wrong, but would'nt be nice to like include some "tips for travellers" that aren't some published paid for stuff.??

I use 5 to go to Portland and Seattle and Canada. I could offer some tips.

Dmsar 13:14 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I think it would be helpful to add a link to Randy Woodfield, the I-5 Killer; the most relevant place seems to be under Notes. Does this seem reasonable? Are there other social and/or historical I-5 associations that we could include? - Wyvern 02:53, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Techincally, alot of those junctions are spurs (or thats my understanding) (all the x05's are spurs) dunno if it would be making it worse to redo those sections though...

long distance mileage signs

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