Talk:It's The Sun Wot Won It

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"Rupert Murdoch dominated UK politics. He may be the last of his kind". Politico. 22 September 2023. Archived from the original on 26 September 2023. Retrieved 26 September 2023. Still others expect more of the same under Lachlan. "Congratulations to Rupert Murdoch for pulling off a seamless transition within the family's global media empire — something no U.K. political leader has ever achieved at Number 10," quipped Tom Watson, a former Labour deputy leader who battled with Murdoch amid a scandal of tabloid hacking of private voicemails. Watson added: "It's the son what won it." That's a reference to the infamous "Sun wot won it" headline, splashed across the Sun's front page after Labour leader Neil Kinnock — who failed to gain the backing of the top-selling tabloid — lost the general election in 1992.

Wot[edit]

What's the grammatical precedent for the use of "wot" in the headline? JFW | T@lk 01:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose it's just an attempt to emulate working class "pubspeak", and takes up less room. I guess it might have had less of a jeery tone if they'd written "It was The Sun that jolly well won the election, what?" Bob talk 08:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Later Use[edit]

In the 1997 election, The Observer newspaper printed on the Sunday before polling details of a poll in the constituency of Enfield Southgate (Michael Portillo was the incumbent MP seeking re-election) that if sufficient LibDem voters switched to Labour, they would unseat Portillo and Stephen Twigg would be elected for Labour. In the election Portillo lost and Twigg won. I'm pretty certain on the Sunday following the election The Observer printed the headline "It's The Obs Wot Won It" or some very similar derivation of it. I can't I find trace - yet - Google is flooded with images and articles referencing The Sun from 1992. I only post this here to see if it prompts anyone else's memory and maybe someone kept a copy of the paper or can search better than I can. If I do stumble across proper evidence that this really did get printed in The Observer, I'll add it into this section. --Cjjm (talk) 14:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brown headline[edit]

At present the article claims a headline from 6 May 2010 stating "If Brown wins today will the last person to leave Britain please turn out the lights", a play on the 1992 Kinnock headline. Thing is, I can find no trace of this. Googling the phrase throws up plenty of refs to the 1992 headline, but none to the 2010 headline. Can anybody confirm this was actually used? TheRetroGuy (talk) 20:35, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction ..Use of the word "notorious" in quotes.[edit]

The Guardian article discussing the issue and Murdoch's admission that it was tasteless and wrong ..uses the word notorious which I put in quotes. Unfortuately various I/P edits removed the quotes and the addition of a second article in the same sentence confused the citation making it appear wp:npov. I've therefore done a copy/edit restoring the quotes and separating the citations. JRPG (talk) 10:52, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]