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Good articleJacques Rivette has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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Current status: Good article

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 03:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I've tried to greatly improve this page (yes under different URLs, NOOOOOOO I don't want an account). I have reached the point where my book (published in 1988) ends and would greatly welcome more biographical help for the past 23 years. When I have more free time in about 2 weeks, I plan to use the Rosenbaum article and the sensesofcinema.com article to try to fill in the blanks, especially the Themes and style section. 9-25-2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.77.27 (talk) 03:36, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Jacques Rivette is a very important filmmaker, not only for French but for the World's movie goers. I don't agree with the previous classification as "subject with low importance". For me, and for thoses who know cinema and French cinema, Rivette is a huge filmmaker. Elocypher 08, 26 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elocypher (talkcontribs)

GA nomination[edit]

I've only glanced at this article, not read it, but I'm astonished that it isn't at least a GA. -- Zanimum (talk) 16:39, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have plans to expand the "Themes and Style" section, then break it off into its own article and shorten the section in this article. I'll get to it. Works slow recently so I have more free time.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 21:32, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, cool! Do you want me to pull down the GAN while you do that? Note, it usually takes quite a few months before a GAN is reviewed. -- Zanimum (talk) 13:03, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would be better to hold off for now. There's two major English language books on Rivette and the article only includes substantial content from one of them, and I just plan to expand the article(s) further. And on the other hand the main article is itself a bit too long, so the whole project still needs some work.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 20:19, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Zanimum, if you really think its ready for GA, please keep it there, but I would disagree and don't plan to participate in its nomination process.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 03:12, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jacques Rivette/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Carbrera (talk · contribs) 03:38, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Sorry for the delay! I will be copying and pasting my review that I performed today while on an airplane from Microsoft Word. Thanks for understanding! Cheers, Carbrera (talk) 23:57, 23 June 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Lead[edit]

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  • Replace "He then reevaluated his career" with "He then re-evaluated his career".
  • Replace "although the it has rarely been screened" with "although rarely screened".

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  • Insert a comma following "during the early 1960s".

1928-1950: Early life and move to Paris[edit]

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  • Insert a comma after "In 1948".
  • Insert a comma before and after "Francis Bouchet".
  • Insert a comma following "On the day of his arrival".

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  • Insert a comma before and after "Isidore Isou".

=== 1950-1956: Film criticism and Le Coup du Berger"

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  • Replace "Charbrol, Gruault, Rohmer and Jean Douchet also attended, and the group roomed together at the Biarritz Lycée dormitory for the festival." with "Charbrol, Grualult, Rohmer, and Jean Douchet also attended and roomed together at the Biarritz Lycée dormitory for the festival."

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  • Insert a comma after "In 1951".
  • Replace "writing that they were afraid to take risks and corrupted by money." with "writing that they were afraid to take risks and were corrupted by money."

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  • Insert a comma after "during the summer of 1952".

=== 1957-196: Paris Belongs to Us and the French New Wave"

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  • Replace "submitted scripts which would become their first films" with "submitted scripts that would become their first films".
  • Replace "Rivette, eager to make a film with Rossellini's help, and co-writer Gruault" with "Rivette, eager to make a film with Rossellini's help, with co-writer Gruault".
  • Insert a comma after "research the project; shortly afterwards".

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  • Insert a comma after "In Paris Belong to Us".

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  • Insert a comma after "and at the 1959 Cannes Film Festival".

1962-1967: Editor of Cahiers de cinéma and The Nun controversy[edit]

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  • Insert a comma after "in 1962".

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  • Take a look at how you set up the dates "6 February 1963" and "5 March".
  • Replace "but Bourseiller could not afford to produce a film version and the project was shelved." with "but Bourseiller could not afford to produce a film version, so the project was shelved."

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  • Insert a comma after "After several financial failures".

Paragraph 5[edit]

  • Once again, take a look at how you have your dates "31 August 1965" and so forth. I'm not sure whether its stylistic or not, but typically I see it "August 31, 1965".

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  • Insert a comma after "Shortly afterwards".
  • More dates to look at "26 July 1967".
  • Replace "a young woman forced into a convent by her family and physically and psychologically tortured." with "as a young woman forced into a convent by her family, who's physically and psychologically tortured."

1968-1972: Political activism and cinematic style[edit]

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  • Once again, "12 February" as the date. Consider "February 12".
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  • Replace "Out 1 has notoriously difficult" with "Out 1 was notoriously difficult".

1973-1982: Fantasy films and nervous breakdown[edit]

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  • Delete the comma after "and actor Joe Dallesandro".
  • Insert a comma after "Over a year after filming was completed".

1983-1991: Partnership with Marginac and increased recognition[edit]

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  • Insert a comma after "He enjoyed working with the four young actresses in La Bande des quatre so much".
  • Insert a comma after "After several weeks of rehearsals".

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  • Insert a comma after "Shortly after its Cannes success".

1992-2009: Later films and retirement[edit]

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Themes and style[edit]

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  • Change the tense of "even though nearly all his films revolve" to "even thought nearly all his films revolved". It matches the statement better.

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  • Insert a comma after "Rivette also worked repeatedly with writers and technicians".

Legacy[edit]

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  • Replace "Lim also saw the films influence" with "Lim also saw the film's influence".

Personal Life[edit]

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  • Insert a comma after "In 1960".
  • Look at the date layout "21 April 2012".

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  • Date lay out "20 April 2012".
  • Insert a comma after "In the mid-2000s".
  • Replace "They married shortly after he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's," with "They married shortly after he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's."

Death[edit]

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  • Date lay out "5 February 2016".

End of GA Review:[edit]

Performed a sorta–copyedit here, so I apologize for the length of the review. If there any mistakes regarding the review, I also apologize, as I was on a plane as this took place haha! On hold for seven days to allow changes to be made to the article! Thanks and good luck! Cheers, Carbrera (talk) 23:59, 23 June 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Ack, sorry, I've forgotten about this. I'm going to try and make corrections ASAP. -- Zanimum (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jacques Rivette/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ssven2 (talk · contribs) 06:54, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


I will review this article. Thank you.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 06:54, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • Generally, mention the years in which the films were released in all sections of the article (For example, Les Dames du Bois de BoulogneLes Dames du Bois de Boulogne (1945) and The Rules of the GameThe Rules of the Game (1939)).
  • Replace reference no 4 with a better one as it does not mention if Rivette was educated there.
  • "and sat next to Godard for several months before the latter introduced himself." — Sounds vague. What does it mean here? Better clarify this.
  • "the silent film was shot in the summer of 1958 and sound added the following year" — better to rephrase it as "the silent film was shot in the summer of 1958 and sound was added the following year".
OK, I think I've taken care of all of this unless I overlooked a film or two.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 03:24, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Further comments

  • Wikilink "French Catholic Church" to "Catholic Church in France", and write it as per the latter.
  • Wikilink "Minister of Information" to "Minister of Information (France)".
  • Wikilink "Minister of Culture" to "Ministry of Culture (France)".
  • "with the publicity helping make it Rivette's only hit film." — Rephrase it as "with the publicity helping make it Rivette's only hit film to that point."
Done.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 01:40, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "With each film revolving around two female characters, part one was to be a love story, part two a fantasy, part three an adventure and part four a musical comedy." — Would look better if you rephrased this.
  • "but was never distributed." — Is this sourced?
Tweaked that sentence a little. Double checked the Wakeman book, yes it is sourced. Also, I don't quite agree with another editors recent changing on the main picture. --Deoliveirafan (talk) 01:33, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing much with the rest. Nice job on the article. I'll perform a source review tomorrow.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 11:32, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Source review
  • This link is a redirect to the current awards ceremony. Do find a substitute.

I'll look at the rest tomorrow.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 09:07, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall: Passed, my queries were met and solved by the nominator.
    Pass or Fail:

The sources are good. Nice work on the article, Deoliveirafan.  — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 08:49, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much, always appreciate working with you.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 17:44, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]