Talk:James D. M. Beebe

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For WP:ANYBIO #2, James D. M. Beebe was a well-known Sandy Hook Pilot who organized the New Jersey Sandy Hook Pilots Association where he served for 55 years.^[1]^[2] Greg Henderson (talk) 22:46, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is circular reasoning. WP:ANYBIO explicitly says Generally, a person who is "part of the enduring historical record" will have been written about, in depth, independently in multiple history books in that field, by historians. An obituary and a book about the particular association he was a member of do not meet that level. `Melcous (talk)

James D. M. Beebe organized the New Jersey-Sandy Hook Pilots' Association. There are 23 results for "James D. M. Beebe" on Newspapers.com. The fact that he organized the New Jersey-Sandy Hook Pilots' Association makes him notable as reported in several different obituaries. Back in 19th century there was not the kind of reporting that we have today. There is a full-page accounting of him here. Greg Henderson (talk) 00:13, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Capt. Beebe, Pioneer Pilot Dead at 92, Organizer of the New Jersey-Sandy Hook Pilot Association". The Daily Record. Long Branch, New Jersey. September 19, 1917. Retrieved 2023-09-12.
^ Allen, Edward L. (1922). Pilot Lore; From Sail to Steam, and Historical Sketches of the Various Interests Identified With the Development of the World's Greatest Port. The United New York and New Jersey Sandy Hook Pilots Benevolent Associations.

[1] "Capt. Beebe, Pioneer Pilot Dead at 92, Organizer of the New Jersey-Sandy Hook Pilot Association". The Daily Record. Long Branch, New Jersey. September 19, 1917. Retrieved 2023-09-12.

[2] Allen, Edward L. (1922). Pilot Lore; From Sail to Steam, and Historical Sketches of the Various Interests Identified With the Development of the World's Greatest Port. The United New York and New Jersey Sandy Hook Pilots Benevolent Associations.

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