Talk:Jarai

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the article needs more info about the jarai's language and music. Gringo300 05:20, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Related ethnic groups[edit]

If the "related ethnic groups" goes by language family, the Viet are not related to the Jarai. Badagnani 18:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Jarai Speakers[edit]

If we have a figure all the way down to the "ones" digit, we're suggesting that the data are that precise. But since the data are from different years, their sum cannot be that precise. (It would be like using census data from 2000 from South Carolina and from 2003 for North Carolina, adding them together, and saying, "the population of the Carolinas is X.") There are two problems: (1) we would be representing past data as present, and (2) we would be using incongruent figures because the data were taken from different years. I don't know the exact solution, but it should at least involve rounding in some direction, and should probably involve re-wording to clarify the data.

The "approximately" was added because the number must certainly not be exactly the same as that from the official figure. The wording might be changed to say "as of the census in X year the population was X." I don't know where Ethnologue gets their figure for Jarai speakers. Maybe they assume every ethnic Jarai can speak Jarai. Any idea where the figure comes from? Badagnani 21:52, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, the number Ethnologue gives for the "total population" includes all people who identify as that particular ethnic group in the censuses (or is it "censi"???) they survey, regardless of whether or not they speak the language. Anyway, with a population in the 300,000's, it's probably safe to say that everyday Jarai are either being born or dying so the number's in constant flux. I think the only solution is to keep the number we have, since is it from a citable source (anything else would constitute Original Research) and cite that source.--WilliamThweatt 22:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seems fine. Do you want to say something like "According to the Ethnologue website, the total number of Jarai speakers is XXX,XXX (presuming that everyone identifying as Jarai speaks the Jarai language)"? Badagnani 23:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds OK to me (although I'm not a big fan of parentheses).--WilliamThweatt 00:53, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I vote against the parentheses. Instead, give the two separate Ethnologue figures (Vietnam and Cambodia) with the census years in the main text, then add the numbers together for the sidebar. Viverechristus 19:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pb with an photo[edit]

I removed the following, due to misleading nature:

The tomb in the foreground is Jarai, however the house in the background is a "rong" or communal house, most likely Banar... Not only is the title misleading but the Banar building is very central in the photo... I'll upload a visual replacement anytime soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdavout (talk • contribs) 21:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great (albeit outdated) reference to use[edit]

PDF @ The Vietnam Center and Archive: Very complete 50 page document from the 1960s with a missionary outlook but lots of interesting information. Includes a very usable map to copy as per above request. Rdavout (talk) 22:14, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The exact title wasn't that easy to get. "DA Pam No. 550-105 Ethnographic Study Series Minority Groups in the Republic of Vietnam (1127 pages) [February 1966]" is the exact reference, I added it to the main article as a reference but added no content. Rdavout (talk) 22:17, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]