Talk:Jesper Blomqvist

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Good articleJesper Blomqvist has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
September 14, 2008Good article nomineeListed

Mention[edit]

Should there not be some mention of the fact that he played no part in the 99/00 and 00/01 seasons? The article rather misguidedly points out that he was a factor in the title wins of those two seasons.

Source[edit]

I added some info just now about some individual awards Blomqvist won, but I could ONLY find a Swedish source for it. I can try and look harder but these are Swedish league awards, and therefore if they're not on well known sources (Swedish FA's English portion of site, rsssf, fifa, uefa etc) then it's unlikely that there's an english version. For those who can understand it, it's certainly a reliable source (Swedish FA's official site), but there's no English equivalent. Is it still okay to use this as a reference, or should I delete the information? BeL1EveR (talk) 20:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can use foreign language reliable sources, they are fine, an english one is preferred, but since there's no reliable english alternative, a Swedish one is fine; see WP:NONENG for the relevant guideline. Also, an unreliable source is basically just as bad as no source; they will not be allowed if you want to pass GA. :) - Toon05 20:43, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from [[{{subst:Jesper Blomqvist}}]]. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

I've taken this article from this [1] to the current version. After a somewhat unusually initited but nonetheless useful review I think it's close to or at GA standard. BeL1EveR (talk) 18:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Review[edit]

I'll be doing the GA review for this article. Here are some initial suggestions to take care of before I start looking indepth into the text:

  • A couple of the refs need formatting (5, 19). Actually, #5 is a YouTube video, and YouTube videos normally cannot be used as refs because of copyright issues, so it would be best to find another source for that info.
  • Also in the refs, don't add the "th" to the dates.
  • In his individual honors section, the ref shouldn't be in the header.
  • Also, to pass the breadth requirement, there needs to be some information about his life away from his career. Some information that will satisfy the requirement includes (but is not limited to): family, marriage, children, where he grew up, religion, other jobs, and things of that nature.

That's it for now. The article will remain on hold for seven days to allow for these initial improvements. Nikki311 16:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for agreeing to review the article. I've actioned the first three points, except the removal of the YouTube video. As you say, there is no blanket ban, but they're looked at on a case-by-case basis due to YouTube's questionable copyright compliance. I'll have a good read of the WP:COPYRIGHT and WP:SOURCE sections this evening, and will either remove it tomorrow, replace it with a suitable alternative, or provide reasons if I conclude that there's no requirement to do either. I'm working on a personal life section at the moment. Will have to expand it a little at a time over the next week due to my rather basic grasp of Swedish, combined with the need to make sure that what I add is accurate. BeL1EveR (talk) 18:59, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the video so that it complies better with point 3 below. I've considered this carefully and believe it complies with Wikipedia's fair use policy:
1. Not for profit, informative and used for a different purpose to the original publication.
2. Work was published to a non restricted audience (terrestrial television).
3. I'm using the minimum amount of footage required for the information I'm presenting.
4. Clip has the channel's logo in the top right hand corner which may have a very slight positive effect, otherwise neither a positive or negative impact on their ability to profit from the work.

However, I'll remove it if you believe this is not sufficient basis to link to it. 82.5.72.161 (talk) 14:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Honestly, I don't even think the YouTube video is needed. It just shows a video of his goal of the year, which is already cited by a different web source. I've also done some copyediting to help with MoS and WP:WEASEL problems. The last things to fix:

  • Jargon: The article needs to be understandable for someone who doesn't know anything about soccer, so terms like "the equaliser" and "capper" need a brief explanation.
  • "Ironically, this was due to an injury crisis" could be better explained. Was it due to the team's injury crisis?
  • What kind of assault was he a victim of? Did he get beat up, held at gun point, gang raped, shoved to the ground? It is too open to interpretation right now.

Nikki311 01:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the video, and actioned the things on the list. I'm about to check through the article for other examples of jargon, I guess "The Treble" needs expanding, and I'll add that the Allsvenskan is the league title the first time the word is used. I've also contacted User:Tooga to see if s/he would be willing to help find sources so we can expand the personal life section a bit, as Tooga's first language is Swedish and the user has edited here recently. BeL1EveR (talk) 19:30, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. Leave me a note here when you are ready for me to look through the article again. Nikki311 17:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should be ready now. Personal life has been a struggle, but there's enough in the article (not just the dedicated section) to cover the major aspects of his personal life: place of birth, youth club, his relatively highly publicised relationship, non-playing roles, and other news stories that centre around Blomqvist and received widespread attention. I discussed source reliability with Tooga, who assures me the Swedish sources I've used have been interpreted correctly and would be accepted on the Swedish language wikipedia. BeL1EveR (talk) 21:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great work. This article has passed and is now a GA. Nikki311 23:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant. Thanks for a thorough review Nikki! BeL1EveR (talk) 19:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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