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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 18:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

General

1 dab link

Infobox

(album version) must dissapear

Lead

per WP:LEAD:

This must summarize the entire article
Sources are not needed here

"group's fourth album, Jesus Freak" -> maybe "group's self titled fourth album.

Origin and lyrics

The four para should be merged into two instead.

Michael Tait said, -> Who?

Composition

During each pre-chorus, Toby McKeehan -> During each pre-chorus, McKeehan

After the second chorus, a melodic breakdown is followed by a dissonant guitar solo. After repeating -> Consecutive sentences starting with "After"

grunge[3][4], -> grunge,[3][4]

Notably -> ^{[by whom?]}

The reviews (including for the "Release and acclaim") are not talking about the album?

Music video

The music for "Jesus Freak" was directed by -> missing word

"who notably worked" -> notable ^{[by whom?]}

"The duality of the two themes is separated by the band performing the song in a darkened room." -> ^{[citation needed]}

Toby McKeehan later said -> McKeehan later said

rock community[13], -> rock community,[13]

How File:DC Talk JesusFreak MusicVideo.jpg pass WP:NFCC#8?

Release and acclaim

Allmusic (the infobox link, you should replace it for the "External links" link), EW and The Chicago Tribune are not talking about the song.

The title of the ref 16 should be reworded.

Cover versions

"who's new lead singer is Michael Tait" -> He joined in 2009, so he is not "new".

"Jesus Freak" has also been covered by Larry Norman and many other bands of the Christian rock genre. -> ^{[citation needed]}

Tracklisting

Unsourced

Album credits

To avoid the overlinked of the section, you can re-organize it as this article

References and notes

Both are inverted (references are the notes and viceversa)

McNeil and Taff, could be wikilinked (e.g. as the reference 5 of the article Forgive Me (Leona Lewis song)).

External links

The Wiki should not go per WP:ELNO

On hold until August 9, 2010 (UTC) Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 18:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, here's what I've fixed up: Added disamb link, fixed the disamb link to screen, provided the correct Allmusic link, removed "(album version)", retooled the lead paragraph(es), removed sources in said paragraph, change all of the text suggestions, merged paragraphs per suggestions, added an explanation as to who Michael Tait is/was, retooled the last part of the "Composition" paragraph, fixed comma mistakes, removed weasel words, fixed grammar mistakes, removed unsourced statements, retitled ref 16, added citation for Larry Norman, sourced the tracklisting, re-organized the Album credits per your suggestion, fixed the mix-up with References and notes, removed the Wiki.

Several things I'd like to comment on:

The Psychology Journal Allmusic, EW and The Chicago Tribune link are talking about the song. In fact, the journal says "'Jesus Freak' (McKeehan & Heimermann, 1995), an enormously successful CCM song, is approached from the perspective of constitutive rhetorical theory." The Allmusic link (I had the wrong one originally, I apologize for that) that I provided is a review of the single, the EW link is reviewing the album, but states that "Jesus Freak" (the song) "successfully, if derivatively, combines textured vocals, aggressive guitar, and solid songwriting, especially on [...] the raucous title track." The Chicago Tribune that I cite was featured in the 100 Greatest Songs in Christian Music chapter about "Jesus Freak" (the song) and is talking about how Jesus Freak caused the CT to say "DC Talk deserves to be judged by a different standard".

File:DC Talk JesusFreak MusicVideo.jpg is contextually significance (as per WP:NFCC#8) because it illustrates Simon Maxwell's darker treatment of the video, the filming style, and the obvious Christian symbolism, in one convenient frame. This significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, providing evidence why the song and video (one of the first songs, if not the first, to merge grunge and CCM) was so innovative and new.

All-in-all, I think I've fixed everything that needed to be fixed! Thanks for taking your time to review this! Hope I fixed everything. Waiting for your comments!--Gen. Quon (talk) 21:57, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Only one thing seems to be missed the File:DC Talk JesusFreak MusicVideo.jpg needs a reduction. At least 200px and at most 300px; and a better purpose of use. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 06:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I uploaded a new version of the file that is smaller than the original, and I added a better purpose of use on images actual page. I also noticed that the picture on the Jesus Freak page is now 190px. I think that's everything!--Gen. Quon (talk) 21:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted an IP unsourced contribution. It, maybe, will be added later, so it could need a source. I see no further problems, so I pass the nominaton, well done!. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 02:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!--Gen. Quon (talk) 16:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Jesus Freak[edit]

This song was originally written and recorded by Larry Norman. It's original year of release was 1972. Larry Norman sang with DC Talk both in a concert version and on an audio version. 172.58.11.252 (talk) 21:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Everything I've seeing says that Norman merely covered the song.--Gen. Quon_[Talk] 21:39, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]