Talk:Joan of Arc (Madonna song)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 18:22, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

I'll be reviewg this article over the next 2 days, so please hold any changes until I say they can be solved on a overall section.

Lead

• State the number of the track on the album.  Done

Background and release

• Straight to the point, no further amendments are necessary.
• While I was reviewing this article a picture of one of the producers has been added. The picture not only disrupts the whole article but also has no description that makes it necessary on the article.  Done
  • Removed, yeah I found the picture disruptive and distracting as well. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 20:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Composition and lyrics

• A sample of the song could be add here. Be aware of maximum length allowed.  Done
  • I have always debated against adding samples to song articles which were not released as singles. My reason being that the exposure in terms of third party media is much lesser than the singles released, there by making the traffic also less on these articles, although they pass WP:NSONGS. Hence, a non-free media in these cases won't exactly serve the purpose of WP:NFCC#8. I hope my point was understandable? —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 20:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
    • Yes, taking into consideration a second time I can see where you are coming and I tend to agree. However, this is not the case, how about promotional singles? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:07, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
      • Promotional singles do use a sample since there's greater feedback on it, say for example the article "Dope" which I had written for GA. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 21:19, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
        • Ok, thanks for the enlightenment. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:05, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
• Tempo, key of the song, vocal range could be added if available on musicnotes.com or any other similar website.  Done
  • Sadly its not available in neither Musicnotes.com or Sheetmusicplus websites :( —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 20:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
    • What a pitty. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:07, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
• "She bares her soul about a life spent in front and behind the velvet curtain and how negativity retains the ability to quietly wound those who dare to be outspoken. From paparazzi photographers to journalists raking her over hot coals, it’s all too much and she admits she’s not Joan of Arc, claiming even hearts made of steel can break down." - Needs rephrasing, use your own words.  Done
  • Thanks this has been done now. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 20:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Critical reception

• "The song received generally positive reviews from music critics" → "The song received generally favorable reviews from music critics". Since there are some negative reviews in the article and perhaps more could be found on the internet.  Done
• The Lewis Corner review it's too big and sounds bias with "superstar", despite of the fact.  Done
• Same cadence of sentences that I will be addressing in the live performances, so please see further down. There are so many linking words in English, I'm pretty sure you can find numerous to add between sentences. Otherwise it seems to "robotic" the phrases.  Done
  • Last paragraph has yet to be reviewed. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:25, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Chart performance

• "while in Spain and Sweden the song peaked inside the top-forty, reaching numbers twenty-seven and thirty-eight respectively" − missing a comma after thirty-eight.  Done

Live performances

• I wouldn't make YouTube my primary source of information. Can you find another link to add to the video of the performance? (Just in case the performance is taken down for some reason)  Done
• "have been stripped down" − what do you mean with stripped down? Make it more explicit for users unfamiliar with the subject.  Done
• "Mike Wass of Idolator", "Markos Papadatos of Digital Journal", "Daryl Deino of The Inquisitr"...see the pattern here? Instead you could say "Digital Journal reviewer Markos Papadatos...", "Daryl Deino, while reviewing for The Inquisitr magazine" and so on. Do the same for the "Critical reception" section.  Done
• The sentences are lacking some "linking words". While, Furthermore, Moreover, On the other hand...and such.  Done
• "praised " → replace the second for exalted, complemented or any other synonym yet to be used.  Done

Credits and personnel

• One link citing the reference of this section would be just fine. Wp:Overlinking.  Done
  • You forgot to remove the link, it's ok I got it. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:10, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
• By removing the first link change the sentence "Personnel adapted from Madonna's official website." → Management and Personnel adapted from Madonna's official website.  Done
• "adittional PT editing" → additional and by the way what is PT editing? Link it in case you find it.  Done

References

• Ref 5: Link Rolling Stone Magazine  Done
• Ref 13: Link Spin Magazine  Done

Overall

Not many edits to do, I'll be put the article on hold. Once all the issues have been addressed please notify me and write here once you have addressed the issue I have raised.

The issues can now be addressed as I have concluded my revision of it.

I'll review it a second time and very likely pass the article. Good edits. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:58, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

@MarioSoulTruthFan: thanks for the review, I have addressed all of them and left comments also. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 20:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

@IndianBio: you have addressed everything but in the critical reception you forgot to review the last paragraph. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:26, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

@MarioSoulTruthFan: sorry about that somehow missed it. Now I have addressed it so please take a look and let me know if anything is missing. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 21:59, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

@IndianBio: I forgot to mention not to italicize "Digital Spy", but I have addressed such issue.It looks fine to me. Do you want to add anything? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:04, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm good thanks. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 22:09, 26 March 2016 (UTC)