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Spin-offs[edit]

There seem to be a few spinoffs with possible legitimate connections. Probably there are plain imitators, too. Let's see if I can make a timeline coming out of the misty early century:

1915 Filippo Milone is selling pizza, somewhere Downtown
1925 John Sasso, related by marriage, takes over the business
1929 John Sasso's pizzeria is definitely operating on Sullivan Street
1934 Loses lease; moves to Bleecker Street
1954 Purchased by Vesce Brothers; name unchanged
1960s Augustine Vesce buys brother out, is sole owner with wife Rose
1981 Augustine, sick, retires, sells 40% to Pete Castellotti Sr
Early 1980s Pete Sr opens John's at 65th Street
- Pete Sr moves to Florida, opens John's of Port Charlotte
- Son Pete Jr and daughter Lisa run Bleecker Street with Robert Vittoria
1995 Madeline, ex-wife of more likely the younger Pete than the elder, opens John's of Times Square, AKA John's of 44th Street

So, the ones with apparently legitimate connections to Bleecker Street are Port Charlotte and 65th Street. Details, photos, and fate of both are unknown. No attempt to present or operate them as a chain is apparent. Times Square is looking to me like falling off the edge of legitimate connection with this article. Drat; that means my picture shows not just an orphan, but a usurping bastard child though there is no evidence that the shop was either acknowledge or disowned by Daddy Pete. Jim.henderson (talk) 18:45, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. East 65th Street closed in 2014. Family connections were undisputed. 44th Street, however, was a legal case within the family, presumably a trademark dispute. Presumably 44th Street won, since it survives under John's name. I don't much think that such a victory, if so, makes it a legitimate part of our John's Bleecker article. Eater New York Jim.henderson (talk) 18:55, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]