Talk:John Lee Hooker discography

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Copyright problem removed[edit]

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I am the one who copied the discograpby from the Hooker Session Discography - my name is Claus Röhnisch and therefore i made no copyright violation. It is up to you if you want to restore the thing as it was. Truly Yours, Claus Röhnisch — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.233.160.223 (talk) 16:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Copyright violation concerns[edit]

There are several problems with the current discography, but the most immediate is that much is nearly identical to "The John Lee Hooker Session Discography – compiled by Claus Röhnisch" at http://www.rhythm-and-blues.info/02_HookerSessionDiscography.pdf. "The Great R&B-files Created By Claus Röhnisch" homepage at http://www.rhythm-and-blues.info/ homepage includes a copyright notice "© Claus Röhnisch 2015-2016".

User:81.233.160.223 added nearly all the material to the discography section of the WP John Lee Hooker article between 20 May 2016 and 18 June 2016.[2] On 19 June 2016, User:Tuckerresearch created this John Lee Hooker discography[3] by moving the Hooker article discography section here.[4]

On 26 May 2016, the IP added "Notes are picked from http://www.rhythm-and-blues.info/02_HookerSessionDiscography.pdf The John Lee Hooker Session Discography". This was later changed to "Notes are inspired from ..." and "The "trivia" notes (by Claus Röhnisch) are citations from ..." (bold added).

Since the webpage includes a copyright notice, there may be a copyright violation. Following WP Dealing with copyright violations, this article has been restored to the last version of the discography section of the Hooker article (11 May 2016) before most of the IP additions were made (although it has several problems as well). The IP has been notified of these concerns. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:00, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Original research & additions by User:Claroh[edit]

The section titles alone reflect original research and the apparent personal opinion of one editor:

  • "Famous singles" – most of these appear to be Hooker's charting singles. (see WP:PEACOCK)
  • "The 100 Original Albums" – many of these appear to be compilations; no reason given why these are considered "The 100 Original".
  • "50 Selected Compilation CDs" – no selection criteria is included.
  • The only references for the entire non-chart article information are two links to a private webpage "The Great R&B-files Created By Claus Röhnisch". The editor who added much of the article material identifies himself as "Claus Rohnisch" on his user page User:Claroh.
  • Sometimes extra commentary is added to the listings: "a CD covering some of John's finest from Vee-Jay, Stax, and Riverside", "anthology covering entire career with 100 hits, classics and rarities in an extremely nice "book-box" with 56 pages", etc.

Propose to return the discography to an earlier version:

  • Change "Famous singles" to "Charting singles" and remove those that are not.
  • Change "The 100 Original Albums" to "Albums".
  • Change "50 Selected Compilation CDs" to "CD compilations".
  • Remove links to personal webpage (user generated – not a reliable source).
  • Remove some commentary.

Additionally, there is still a copyright concern as noted in the sections above. Some of the commentary may be a direct copy of material from Claus Rohnisch's website, which shows a "© Claus Röhnisch 2015-2017" copyright mark.[5] As previously explained:

A copyright holder cannot both retain non-free copyright elsewhere over their content, and license it for one-time use here with their permission, because Wikipedia's licensing scheme requires that its readers and end users be able to reuse the content under the free license notice that is posted at the bottom of every page. The procedures for donation of non-free copyrighted material by its release is described at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. (from WP:DCV)

—Ojorojo (talk) 15:17, 11 September 2017 (UTC).[reply]

That's not good:in the list albums are included compilations,why this terminology?Better split out in "periods":"Detroit years","Chicago years",etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.98.130.202 (talk • contribs) 01:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC) There is a problem with the album "On Campus":the link to the album page is not working (it sends to another page)[reply]
https://cdn.shoplightspeed.com/shops/634895/files/22055655/1600x2048x2/john-lee-hooker-whiskey-wimmen-his-finest.jpg
here is the image from the booklet of "Whiskey & Wimmen:John Lee Hooker's Finest" (an original Vee-Jay/Concord),in which is written "Boom Boom" r&b chart position #1; sources are Vee-Jay files and boxes tapes,so more authoritative than is hard to find 62.98.138.76 (talk) 16:17, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it reached number 1 somewhere - but not on the Billboard charts, which is what we normally use. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:17, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
it is written Billboard r&b charts... 62.98.138.76 (talk) 17:35, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
http://modern-vinyl.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/john-lee-hooker-gatefold.jpg
here you can read the sources 62.98.138.76 (talk) 17:39, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If they do state that (the scan is illegible), they are simply wrong. Please be aware that we use sources that we know are reliable. The Whitburn books are reliable. See WP:USCHARTS - "Any of the books by Joel Whitburn may also be used to verify chart positions." Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:09, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Whitburn is one of the sources...man your sources are wrong i said this is an original Vee-Jay and sources are Vee-Jay files and boxes tapes,the most authoritative...i have many direct sources (some music critics and experts) all your answers are wrong (see Albert King Blind Willie Johnson Muddy Waters) 62.98.138.76 (talk) 22:13, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
for Albert King I'll Play The Blues For You" you posted a random internet source, and i demonstrated it is a reissue,on Blind Willie Johnson biography someone used a false source (read discussion),because i have "The Complete Blind Willie Johnson" and Samuel Charters never wrote that. 62.98.138.76 (talk) 22:17, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
[6]https://i.discogs.com/OiwBWb64S74FcJmToyjWcgsSP_XIbaM4MMIrDbb1zn4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEwMDc5/MzE2LTE1MDI3NTI1/MjUtMjk0NC5qcGVn.jpeg 37.100.101.28 (talk) 16:47, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
[7]https://i.discogs.com/lJqun2vA44aDqlDXjvMxo4t5fVQdvQgUB4iXTNtXNYk/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEwMDc5/MzE2LTE1MDI3NTI1/MzEtMTQ5Mi5qcGVn.jpeg 37.100.101.28 (talk) 16:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
here are the images from the booklet of "Whiskey & Wimmen:Hooker's Finest" (an official Vee-Jay/Concord and John Lee Hooker release) where it is written "Boom Boom" was #1 in the r&b charts. 37.100.101.28 (talk) 16:49, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Never Get Out Of These Blues Alive[edit]

Van Morrison doesn't sing with the Hook on "T.B.Sheets", but on the title track, I had corrected but it was changed again... 151.77.173.75 (talk) 16:37, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are numerous problems with this discography. It has been tagged since June 2016 – the "Albums" section is entirely unsourced along with the commentary that often accompanies the album listings. Since problems with accuracy have been brought up, propose to remove all albums except those with WP articles. Albums without articles may be re-added with a reliable source that supports the album details. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:01, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I do not agree sorry, it is true the discography has some problems, but John Lee Hooker's discography is "problematic" and really vast indeed! You right on the fact it can be improved, if I may suggest an improvement I like the division into periods, but I'd divide the "original" albums (with exact releasing date if possible) by compilations and later collections. 37.100.118.15 (talk) 18:23, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In going through album-by-album, numerous errors were found. But without reliable sources for any of the discography album entries, there is no way for the reader to sort out fact from fiction. WP:BURDEN includes, "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports[efn] the contribution.[efn]"
Since the "needs additional citations for verification" and "possibly contains original research" was added in June 2016, over 100 edits have been made, but not one included a reliable source. Many were made by various IP editors trying to add their own personal opinions. The first step in bringing this discography up to a featured list level, is to remove all unsourced material and build from there.
The current division into "The Folk Years", "The Rosebud Years", etc., appears to be copied from a fansite and many of the albums that are listed in them are in fact compilations. Reliable sources are needed that specifically identify the albums as covering a particular period, etc., and with that, a more accurate format to presents the information (including better release dates) can be developed.
—Ojorojo (talk) 15:21, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Understood and agree. 37.100.118.15 (talk) 17:07, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed a problem with the Vee-Jay album "On Campus", the link for the album send to another page, I'm not good doin' this change, please if someone can... 37.100.118.15 (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have any reliable sources, beyond what's included in the WP articles, for John Lee Hooker (self-titled, Galaxy 201/8201); Live at Sugar Hill (Galaxy 205/8205); ...And Seven Nights (Verve Folkways 3003); Born in Mississippi, Raised Up in Tennessee (ABC 768); Mad Man Blues (Chess 2CH 60011)? I've found that johnleehooker.com sometimes doesn't shows the correct album details (mixing up labels & dates when there are reissues, etc.). The correct link for On Campus will be added during the updates. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have only for "Born In Mississippi, Raised Up In Tennessee" (I have an original 1973 ABC vinyl for this album), I don't have the other albums you mentioned, but I could try to find some informations (but I believe "Mad Man Blues" is a posthumous collection not an original album).When I have some time to dedicate to it, I'll check if I can correct or add something. 37.100.118.15 (talk) 15:33, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I checked "Mad Man Blues", if the information on Wikipedia is right was released by Chess in 1973, but this album can be considered a compilation, because collects the songs originally published (obviously not considering for the 1950s recordings they were originally issued as singles) by Chess on three albums (I have all of them): "House Of The Blues" (1959) and "Plays And Sings The Blues" (1961) contain songs recorded in the early 1950s, "The Real Folk Blues" (1966) was recorded in the same year of publication. 37.100.118.15 (talk) 15:44, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd change the "period" in which they are included for two albums: "Don't Turn Me From Your Door" (ATCO) and "That's Where It's At" (Stax). 37.100.118.15 (talk) 15:49, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have several of these albums too, but they seldom contain detailed notes on the recordings, release dates, etc. Many of Hooker's earlier albums are collections of previously released singles and are therefore not "studio" or "original" albums as the way the discography currently presents them, but are compilations. Without reviews or other commentary, it is often difficult to determine what-is-what without resorting to original research. For example, the WP Mad Man Blues article lists two sources, one of which does not mention the album at all (Grammy.com) and the other is not a reliable source that should not be used (see discogs.com entry at WP:NOTRSMUSIC).
Identifying the "period" is another problem. Hooker biographers and album reviewers do not use a consistent approach. Charles Shaar Murray, author of a popular Hooker biography, uses a different and more complicated scheme, with phases and interregnums. For example, he includes Don't Turn Me from Your Door under "The Detroit Years, 1948–1956", although the songs were recorded in Ohio and Florida (with four songs in 1961!), weren't produced by Besman, and released by a New York record label. He doesn't mention That's Where It's At!, but based on the date the songs were recorded, it would fall under "The Vee-Jay Years, 1956–1964" (he does not identify a "Folk Years" phase/interregnum). With so many competing record label releases around the same times, dividing them by time periods does little to reflect stylistic "periods". Since the sources aren't conclusive, I don't see how periods/phases can be used. Also, by leasing the recordings to many different record companies, grouping them by labels doesn't provide a clearer picture either.
—Ojorojo (talk) 20:03, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
about the "periods" it is really hard as you said, I would add the fact that sometimes these "periods" overlap (for example during his stay at Vee-Jay - Chicago years - Hooker recorded for Riverside - folk years!); a good thing could be divide them in decades, specifying the original publisher label.About the terminology of album or collection I do not agree with you: what you say of Hooker's earlier albums is common for all blues albums of the late 1950s/early 1960s, still I consider them albums not compilations (for example "House Of The Blues" ok it contains songs released in early 1950s and originally released as singles, but it is an album not a collection for me, "Mad Man Blues" is a collection instead, 2 LPs containing songs previously issued on other albums by the same record label); another example is "I'm John Lee Hooker", his first Vee-Jay LP and the only one collecting songs previously released as singles (at least most of them), so you consider this a collection and the other Vee-Jay LPs albums? that's not okay for me, they must be considered albums. 37.100.118.15 (talk) 20:50, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That is why reliable sources are needed. Different editors may have different ideas of what a compilation is and which albums should be under "Folk Years" or other periods/phases. But this is essentially original research if it is not based on what is written about in reliable sources. In going through most of the sources used for WP Hooker album articles, "compilation" does not appear. However, Richie Unterberger writes "Hooker's voluminous output for Vee-Jay Records is scattered across numerous compilations" and Bill Dahl calls one "Yet another Vee-Jay compilation". So, professional music writers believe that many of the Vee-Jay albums are "compilations", but they aren't applied to ones that have WP articles (Dahl calls Rhino's Ultimate Collection an "anthology").
The existing sources also do not identify "periods" for each of the albums. At best, they are usually described along the lines of "1948–1952 recordings for Bernie Besman" or "Chess album that collected 1951–1954 efforts by the Hook". If the album title specifies a date range (as with some collections) or the dates that the songs were recorded is specified in the liner notes, then they could be assigned to a decade. However, many don't: the only source with actual commentary for That's Where It's At! states "A characteristic solo outing with moody compositions and that doomy one-electric-guitar-and-stomping-foot ambience, That's Where It's At! is one of Hooker's sparer and more menacing post-'50s outings, highlighted by "Two White Horses" and a seven-plus-minute "Feel So Bad," which features extended verbal sparring with an unidentified male partner." Based on this description, should it be considered in "The Chicago Years (recordings 1955–1964)", "The Folk Years" (recordings 1959–1963), or what? (Murray doesn't include it in his discography scheme.)
Again, without other reliable sources, splitting tables by studio and compilation and various periods is original research and shouldn't be used in this discography. Splitting the albums by the decade the songs were recorded is an option, but since they sometimes contain recordings from more than one decade, it may not be practical.
—Ojorojo (talk) 16:35, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
yes I agree with you, about "That's Where It's At" in my opinion should not be considered in "The Folk Years", because it is not in an acoustic format, but at the same time it is not really in "The Chicago Years" or "Vee-Jay" style because it is Hooker alone without backing band...as you said, it is really hard! For the terminology, I'd define "album" all the original LPs released during the 1950s/1960s/1970s, excluding "best of" and similar (this goes for every bluesman), but it is just my opinion. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 17:29, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK, progress! The difficulty increases substantially for albums that don't have WP articles. Do you have any reliable sources for the ones that don't have WP articles? —Ojorojo (talk) 14:36, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have for "The Great John lee Hooker" (Crown), and for 2 collection albums "The Legendary Modern Recordings" (Ace) and "Whiskey & Wimmen: Hooker's Finest" (Vee-Jay/Concord). 151.73.16.148 (talk) 13:25, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For the albums with articles, this is what I've come up with so far using AllMusic and album covers.[8] Since there are no reliable sources that consistently identify periods, "Year(s) recorded" has been used instead. This will give readers an idea of what time period is covered by an album. By using the sort function, they will be able to see the albums roughly grouped into periods. Do you have any sources for the missing recording years? —Ojorojo (talk) 18:30, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I use often AllMusic it is very useful, but I noticed sometimes releasing date are not accurate: "I'm John Lee Hooker" was released in 1959, "The Big Soul of John Lee Hooker" in 1963, if you can correct would be great.Yes I have for some albums the recording years, I'll write the informations I have for "The Great John Lee Hooker" too as soon as possible, just I'm a little busy these days; looks like a great job this new discography, just the 2 collection albums I mentioned above, I think they'll need a WP article because they are very important for anyone interested in John Lee Hooker. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 13:23, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, AllMusic is sometimes incorrect. For I'm JLH the 1996 All Music Guide to the Blues lists 1960, while the online version says 1959 (only AllMusic's professional reviews should be used; its "sidebar" info with dates & genres is taken from other sources and is often incorrect). I've also found problems with other sources: a 1998 Billboard article list of release dates shows several incorrect entries as does Colin Larkin's Virgin Encyclopedia of the Blues and the The Rolling Stone Album Guide. I'm sure more discrepancies will be found and more fine tuning to the discography will be necessary. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
recording date for "Travelin'": March 1st 1960; recording date for "Burnin'": 1961. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 13:47, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
recording date for "John Lee Hooker On Campus" is wrong: not 1960, but 1963 is the exact recording year. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 13:50, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
exact recording date for "That's Where It's At": 1961. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 13:58, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Informations for "The Great John Lee Hooker" (Crown): released in 1964.Track listing: 1-"I Need Love So Bad" 2-"Sally Mae" 3-"Key To The Highway" 4-"How Can You Do It?" 5-"It Hurts Me So" 6-"She Left Me" 7-"I Got Eyes For You" 8-"Let's Talk It Over" 9-"(I'm A) Howlin' Wolf" 10-"Tease You Daddy".It is the "sequel" of "Folk Blues" (Crown), collecting songs recorded by the Hook for Bihari's Modern Records (Crown is its subsidiary label); recording date and musicians (all recorded in Detroit): track 1 - October 1954 with Eddie Kirkland (guitar), Bob Thurman (piano), Tom Whitehead (drums), Otis Finch (tenor sax). Track 2 - 1948, track 9 - 1949 both solo recordings. Track 3, 5, 7 recorded May 22, 1952 with Eddie Kirkland (guitar).Track 4 - August 7, 1951 with Andrew Dunham (second guitar).Track 6 - recorded probably February, 1950, solo recording.Track 8 recorded 1954 with Eddie Kirkland (guitar and backing vocals).Track 10 recorded probably April, 1951 solo recording. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 14:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There are several albums that should have articles, but I think cleaning up the existing discography entries should come first. AllMusic has a good review for The Legendary Modern Recordings 1948-1954, but only track listings for The Great John Lee Hooker and Whiskey & Wimmen: John Lee Hooker's Finest. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:21, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
yes I know, but Bill Dahl (AllMusic writer) wrote the liner notes for "Whiskey & Wimmen: Hooker's Finest", you could use that for this album. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 15:24, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think track listing for "The Great John Lee Hooker" on AllMusic is incorrect. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 15:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In order to create WP articles for these albums, they need to be "the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it" (WP:NALBUMS). Liner notes and track listings alone are not enough. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:55, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Recording date for "The Big Soul Of John Lee Hooker": 1962. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 14:24, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
exact recording date for "Folk Blues" (Crown): 1952-1955. For "I Feel Good" I'm not totally sure, but it should be 1969 the recording date, in France. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 14:30, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is all very helpful, but please provide links to the source(s) that show these dates. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is not easy for me to provide the links to the sources: most of them I take after liner notes of CD reissues i have... 151.73.16.148 (talk) 15:22, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Discogs.com has images of many Hooker albums.[9] I couldn't find the recording dates on the album covers (the extracted info that is shown on Discogs.com is not reliable, only the images) for Travelin', Burnin', John Lee Hooker On Campus, That's Where It's At, The Big Soul of John Lee Hooker, and Folk Blues. Perhaps you could identify which reissues you are using by going through the Discogs entries and linking the right ones, otherwise the source is unidentified. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:55, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but I'm not good doin' it, if you can find these albums on Discogs.com: For "Travelin'" and "Burnin'" the source is "4 Classic Albums" (Avid), I have all Hooker's albums on original Vee-Jay LPs too, but there are no informations on those about recording dates."That's Where It's At" I think you can find the recording date on JohnLeeHooker.com, but on the WP article there is already the correct recording date, same for the other albums, I checked on some reissue CDs I have for them: Hoodoo Records or SoulJam Records. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 16:09, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Discogs images for Four Classic Albums don't show any info except for track listings.[10] I did find a source for That's Where It's At!. Murray writes that it was recorded at the same time as the tracks for Don't Turn Me from Your Door, which was July 1961. As noted earlier, I've found several problems with the album details at Johnleehooker.com and don't think it is reliable. I'll continue to look for alternate sources. Thanks for your responses.—Ojorojo (talk) 17:03, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
yes for "4 Classic Albums" the informations are in the booklet. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 17:13, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I found several in Murray, which have been added.[11] Still looking for Urban Blues, I Feel Good!, Goin' Down Highway 51, Jealous, The Healer, The Hot Spot, Chill Out, and Don't Look Back. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:22, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
well done! For the other albums you mentioned I have not informations, only for "The Hot Spot" soundtrack I have the CD but no recording date is mentioned, only recorded at Oceanway Studios, Hollywood, California; for "I Feel Good" I'm not totally sure, but I think it was recorded in 1969 (in France that's quite sure). 151.73.16.148 (talk) 18:56, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm starting to add some albums without articles.[12] Maybe it's about time to add it to the discography page, unless you first have some important additions. This is definitely a work in progress and I expect that more will added, but I think it's a good start. —Ojorojo (talk) 22:49, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is a very good start.About "The Country Blues Of John Lee Hooker" on the WP article is written released in 1959, on the discography 1960, I have the CD reissue of this album, but no informations about the release date, only recording date. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 11:56, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is sometimes unclear where the info in WP articles for Hooker albums comes from. AllMusic lists "Jan. 1960", Larkin lists "1959" for the alternate title The Folk Blues of JLH, Johnleehooker.com shows "2019" for a 60th anniversary reissue (so 1959?), and there is no access to Russell & Smith. Several other sources list either 1959 or 1960. I used All Music Guide to the Blues for several entries, including The Country Blues of JLH, and don't see the need to change it, unless there is a clearly better source. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:56, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
yes I agree with you 151.73.16.148 (talk) 15:13, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The updates so far have been added with an "Under construction" tag. Most of the reissues that appeared in the earlier version are probably best handled with explanatory footnotes instead of separate entries. I am thinking of adding a section for the albums that appeared on the charts.[13][14] Are there any other charts that you use? —Ojorojo (talk) 17:18, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
unfortunately not, but I noticed in one of the links you posted Billboard says only "Boom Boom" entered the pop charts...there is "I'm In The Mood" too, isn't it? 151.73.16.148 (talk) 12:33, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please provide the link for the post so I can see if there's a problem. The Billboard website shows only "Boom Boom" on the Hot 100,[15] while Joel Whitburn's Top R&B Singles 1942–1988 lists "Boom Boom" (No. 60) and "I'm in the Mood" (No. 30).[p. 194]—Ojorojo (talk) 14:21, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So I'd use Joel Whitburn as source. 151.73.16.148 (talk) 12:08, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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