Talk:Joseph P. Riley Jr. Park

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Silly comma in name[edit]

It's easy to see that most book sources drop the a-grammatical comma before Jr. There's no reason for Wikipedia to follow the comma error when most sources don't. Dicklyon (talk) 16:32, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a grammar error when that's the actual name of the thing. Wikipedia's style preference doesn't overrule the actual names of places, books, etc. Ever since the city named the ballpark that in 1996, they've used a comma. I haven't tracked down the official resolution on the name, but the city council minutes in the months following are consistent[1][2][3]. Your claim that "most book sources" drop the comma is not, in fact, "easy to see" and I'm not sure that numbers are the relevant criteria over quality. The first book listed keeps it[4], Robert Rosen's academic A Short History of Charleston keeps it[5], the high quality Lonely Plant guides keep it [6][7]. As I pointed out previously, both the ballpark's official site[8] and the city of Charleston parks department[9] use the comma. So does the Citadel's athletics department[10] and the official MiLB site[11]. Jahaza (talk) 20:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's easy to count the first few pages of book hits and see that the majority of books drop the agrammatical comma, so there's no reason we can't do similarly. No style guide in the world would say that's OK. Officialdom can be dumb in their style choices. We don't have to copy them. Dicklyon (talk) 21:59, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also note that the article title was stable without the comma for 15 years. So a discussion would be needed, especially to move it contrary to our style guidelines. Dicklyon (talk) 22:03, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are you recommending this page be renamed (moved) to Joseph P. Riley Junior Park? GoodDay (talk) 22:09, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody suggested that. The abbreviation Jr. is conventional. I was just talking about why I moved it back after an editor added a comma. Dicklyon (talk) 17:42, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a strong opinion here, but I just want to point out that the article included the comma until User:Dicklyon moved it in April of 2016. No one contested the move until about 10 days ago when this dispute began. Billcasey905 (talk) 19:14, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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