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IPA wrong for Torres[edit]

The "rr"is long: [rː]. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 05:08, 13 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You're the user 47.32.20.133, aren't you? You're kindly asked not to edit articles about phonetic issues you don't know anything about, thank you! Apienneaicì (talk) 08:51, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not 2600:8800::/32|2600:8800::/32. I'm me. Ph.D. Linguistics, specialization phonology. But anyone who knows some Spanish knows that Torres is pronounced Torres, not Tores. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 15:24, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive my frankness, but then I'm afraid that my knowledge about Spanish phonology based on a quick language course is worth more than yours based on PhD studies. Spanish doesn't possess "fortis" (long) consonants. The digraph "rr" corresponds to sound /r/ exactly as a single "r" word-initially or post-consonantically and syllable-initially, while a single "r" elsewhere corresponds to sound /ɾ/ (as confirmed by Help:IPA/Spanish). Thus "Torres" is pronounced /'tores/ while "Tores" would be pronounced /'toɾes/ instead. Please don't change the pronunciation again, and thanks for not doing it so far. Apienneaicì (talk) 19:36, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]