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Website update[edit]

KCRW.com updated its website in October 2006, and access to the MP3 stream appears to have been lost. The old website and access to the simulcast MP3 stream can still be accessed here: http://legacy.kcrw.com/grid/

KCRW's MP3 streams are still accessible from the home page, via the KCRWlive, KCRWmusic, and KCRWnews links on top. Once the player loads, the links are visible towards the top of the screen. Or, for direct access: http://media.kcrw.com/live/kcrwlive.pls (KCRWlive), http://media.kcrw.com/live/kcrwmusic.pls (KCRWmusic), and http://media.kcrw.com/live/kcrwnews.pls (KCRWnews). Daveyfire 00:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mass editing change[edit]

The page is currently undergoing a mass editing change under the direction of General Manager Ruth Seymour and publicity director Sarah Spitz. Please be patient as we work out the kinks and details.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Daveyfire (talk • contribs).

That's swell, but they must write like encyclopedia writers, not publicists. For example, this type of entry:

Under the aegis of General Manager Ruth Seymour, the station has pioneered and finely honed a uniquely successful eclectic format, featuring an intelligent mix of trendsetting popular music, NPR news and locally-produced news/information/talk, cultural and entertainment programs.

has too many "peacock" words. We have to keep the tone neutral. -Will Beback · † · 21:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to reserve judgment until I see what comes up, but I think this article is whitewashing KCRW history. No mention of Christopher Douridas, Sandra Tsing Loh, Joe Frank, KCRW's contrasts with KPCC, etc. I know I have heard Santa Monica City Council meetings on KCR&/Antelope Valley. I don't really like the three column format because it looks horrid on 800 x 600 monitors. But as everyone knows, you invite merciless editing once you post something here. Calwatch 06:44, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect to the station personnel, I think that it'd be better if we revert the "mass editing change". There are a few factual corrections and some additional info which can be restored after that, but the overall tone of the changes is entirely inappropriate. This isn't an advertisement. -Will Beback · † · 22:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry.... just doing as I was told to do by people at the station. I'm a total n00b to Wikipedia and as such don't quite understand much of what goes on or shorthand. Thanks, Will, for the helpful hints link -- contains stuff I had no idea about (like the four tilde thing). And I'm still not sure who out there uses 800 x 600 anymore either... Daveyfire 00:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah this is not the least bit impartial or encyclopedic. Needs an update.

Per this discussion, I've reverted the article to 14:38, November 26, 2006. Let's continue to improve the article. One item that I think needs help is the infobox. Listing the ERP values isn't much help when the values aren't connected to the transmitters. The information is presented better in the table later on. Do we want to keep a list of every program? -Will Beback · † · 05:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Spitz' comments[edit]

As both publicity director for KCRW and producer of a KCRW show, I believe that Sarah Spitz' comments should be mentioned in this article. The prominent Washington Post found it noteworthy enough to mention not just Sarah Spitz, but KCRW:

The Caller found one example of a news staffer spewing bile. Sarah Spitz, a producer for "Left, Right & Center" on public radio station KCRW, wrote that if Rush Limbaugh were having a heart attack, she would "laugh loudly like a maniac and watch his eyes bug out. . . . I never knew I had this much hate in me. But he deserves it."

Spitz apologized in a statement, saying she "made poorly considered remarks about Rush Limbaugh" and regrets her "irresponsible behavior."

Does anyone have suggestions on changing how the material about KCRW and Spitz is worded? Drrll (talk) 00:46, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That seems pretty tangential. It does not appear that Spitz made the remark on the radio. If an Washington Post reporter or editor made a comment that wasn't printed in the paper, would we note it in our article on the paper? Will Beback talk 01:10, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You make a good point about what would be done in regards to the WaPo article if a non-published comment was made by a journalist there. Spitz did not make the comment on air or in print. The only thing I see as a reason to put it back in would be that it is one of the few times that KCRW was reported on in a national coverage context. Drrll (talk) 01:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like KCRW was mentioned mostly for identification. Will Beback talk 01:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peacock Terms and Unsubstantiated Claims Deteriorate Entry Quality[edit]

Parts of the entry appear to have been written by individuals associated with the station (or some of its fans). As a result, the entry is poorly rated as a C and suffers from a dearth of verifiable facts and a flood of peacock terms and unsubstantiated claims. Reading the discussion, this problem seems to date back to 2006.

This radio station (and any other Wikipedia topic) deserves better treatment. I identified several of the unsubstantiated, dubious or peacock terms. Unless they are supported and/or edited for tone, we will be forced to delete them in the coming weeks.

If KCRW is important to you, help us bring this entry to the A level!

TippTopp (talk) 13:13, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ten years later and this problem persists. Morganfitzp (talk) 16:19, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The ""Rant" Controversy" is old news.[edit]

The ""Rant" Controversy" section may have seemed important at the time, but in retrospect it looks more like mere topical news, —of little importance now. Suggest deleting it unless a meaningful rebuttal is offered.
--69.110.90.203 (talk) 21:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)Doug Bashford[reply]

KDRW and/or KQSC added as rebroadcasters?[edit]

Today I was listening to KCRW Electic 24 and I noticed that "KDRW HD2 Santa Barbara" had been added to the station ID that they broadcast at the top of the hour. Does anyone know more about this? I'm also confused about their acquisition of KDB. Following this acquisition KUSC's KQSC repeater in Santa Barbara at 88.7 supposedly joined KCRW's network, but both stations have the frequency listed on their respective sites. --AllOriginalBubs (talk) 16:33, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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KCRW Berlin 104.1[edit]

KCRW has since 2017 a dependency in Berlin, Germany which is the only NPR station outside the US, broadcasting on the frequency of former AFN Berlin.

https://kcrwberlin.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:16B8:5C47:A000:A01D:FF27:A20C:E9FE (talk) 15:38, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

https://commongroundberlin.com/ 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 22:32, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Clean-up needed[edit]

This article could use s bit of housekeeping. History section should follow a timeline of how station format, programming, and management evolved decade by decade. Programming section could use some distinction between “current” programming and “past” programming. Right now big chunks of this article read more as promos for the station, which is not what Wikipedia is for—KCRW has their own website for that (as well as an app, a podcast network, and of course a radio station). Morganfitzp (talk) 16:13, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]