Talk:Kapiʻolani (chiefess)

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Did you know... that Hawaiian Chiefess Kapiʻolani's walk into an active volcano in 1824 was the subject of a poem by Alfred, Lord Tennyson?

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Year of birth[edit]

Things don't add up. This source states she was born in 1781 and she was two when her father died in 1790. Her mother is suppose to have fled Kamehameha I to marry her father yet Kamehameha had only one wife prior to the Battle of Mokuohai in 1785. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KAVEBEAR (talk • contribs) 13:15, 1 April 2012

Requested move 17 December 2014[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 16:18, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Chiefess Kapiolani → Kapiʻolani (chiefess) – Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Hawaii-related articles#Biography "members of the royal family, use the reign name (and ordinal as appropriate); e.g. Kamehameha III". This figure is Kapiʻolani I, however this can be ignored as her namesake was Queen Kapiʻolani and her article reflects that tile as wife of Kalakaua. Relisted. BDD (talk) 05:21, 1 February 2015 (UTC) Mark Miller (talk) 11:46, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

She is not the primary subjec/ttopic of the name which is required on Wikipedia if the idea is to give one subject the primary name shared by both; we have a disambiguation page Kapiolani already. Nor is Kapiʻolani I or Kapiolani II used in the majority of reliable sources; some obscure reliable sources do use it of course. Chiefess Kapiʻolani or Kapiʻolani (chiefess) would accomplish the goals of the criteria.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:56, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have made a similar comment at Talk:Queen Kapiolani, but under WP:NCROY "Queen" should be removed from that article's title, which would result in the same target as what is proposed here. Dekimasuよ! 20:30, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I stated nothing about ordinals and a primary topic is a matter of the disambiguation page (which by the way is only for article with the same name with differing meanings. Your move and creation of that disambiguation page is not to guidelines as you added all article that have the word in it but not all the articles that have the same or similar title and which article to use as the primary topic there. I still agree with Dekimasu but feel this page should be the under this title (as proposed) as it is the correct spelling using the proper diacritic and follows the MOS and the MOS Hawaii.--Mark Miller (talk) 21:54, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The creation of the dab page happened several years ago, so I don't think we need to argue about that now. I have removed partial title matches from it per WP:MOS-DAB#Examples of individual entries that should not be created. It is possible, though, that what is left at Kapiolani should be moved to the title with the okina, and that is worth discussing here. Dekimasuよ! 22:01, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, I think that is still not correct. I believe it should be Kapiʻolani (disambiguation) and that the article Queen Kapiolani is the article to use by itself, moved to Kapiʻolani. This article would then be retitled Kapiʻolani (chiefess) as suggested by KAVEBEAR. The Queen Consort (English description) is the most well known figure of that name as she was the queen of David Kalakaua and has a very detailed history. I will update my move request.--Mark Miller (talk) 23:23, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support Kapiʻolani (chiefess) as updated RM above. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:55, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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In popular culture[edit]

There is a movie about her (https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-islands_4097574.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email2&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-11-19-3&est=hcYBi1LhBqa3DJ1K7TFJcWGZoSibc%2BlINkZC8EnhRzMkFmfjp9Z1WZ23ZkExEQ%3D%3D). Should it be added to the page? Kdammers (talk) 01:36, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]