Talk:Kaweah River/GA1

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Reviewer: Ceranthor (talk · contribs) 17:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]


I will be reviewing this. ceranthor 17:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lead
  • "Fed primarily by high elevation snowmelt" - any mountains in particular?
  • "With its Middle Fork headwaters arising at almost 13,000 feet (4,000 m) above sea level" - "arising at" reads awkwardly
  • Otherwise, reads splendidly. One of the best leads I've read in a long time.
All done. Thanks, appreciated! Shannon [ Talk ] 19:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Course
  • "The Kaweah River originates along the Great Western Divide, a chain of 13,000-foot (4,000 m) peaks in the middle of Sequoia National Park that separates its watershed from the Kern River drainage further east." - what "its" refers to here is unclear; suggest rewording slightly to make that more clear
  • "The Kaweah River flows southwest, paralleled by Highway 198 in its narrow canyon" - maybe add "to the" or "in a southwestward direction"
  • Think these all need to be tweaked for grammatical matching: "Mill Creek continues west", "making a wide loop around Visalia before becoming Cross Creek north of Goshen, from where it flows south", "Kaweah River continues southwest", "Cross Creek, which flows south" - these should all be "Xward" or "to the X" (where X is north/south/etc)
  • "The length of the Kaweah River from the confluence of the Middle and Marble Forks, to the bifurcation at Mill and Packwood Creeks, is 33.6 miles (54.1 km)." - could be rewritten with less verbiage, and with less separation between the subject and main verb ("length... is")
  • "Mill Creek, the larger of the two distributaries, flows for 25.1 miles (40.4 km) from there west to Cross Creek, for a total distance of 58.7 miles (94.5 km).[2][n 1] " -phrased awkwardly, particularly "from there west to Cross Creek"
Mostly done, I'll check later to see if I missed anything. Shannon [ Talk ] 19:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Natural features and environment
  • "iconic yellow mariposa lily, Calochortus luteus, which has been specifically noted in the Dry Creek tributary watershed.[20]" - what makes it iconic, and why is that worth mentioning here and in this article in particular?
  • Looks like the lake picture needs to be shifted down a bit (at least in Chrome browser).
Do you mean the lake picture would look better if moved to this section? Shannon [ Talk ] 23:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think that would fix the image stacking I see on Chrome. ceranthor 12:27, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Otherwise fine.
History
  • "The Kaweah River watershed was originally inhabited by the Yokuts people of the Central Valley," - obviously implied, but worth noting that they're an indigenous people
  • Otherwise good.
Done Shannon [ Talk ] 17:22, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
River modifications
  • "This was important because the capacity of the main channel of the Kaweah River is just 5,500 cubic feet per second (160 m3/s), and even less in its smaller downstream branches;[45]:67–223 however, the river's peak flows can be much higher, with a record of 80,700 cubic feet per second (2,290 m3/s) in the 1955 flood.[46]" - get rid of the semicolon and make this two sentences
Fixed the sentence, you're right it was pretty awkward. Shannon [ Talk ] 02:39, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Recreation
  • "The majority of people come to visit the Giant Forest, but some also visit the Kaweah River for boating, fishing and swimming" - this statement should probably be supported by a direct citation
Replaced with a statement supported by citation. Shannon [ Talk ] 03:28, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A California fishing license is required for visitors above age 16" - I'd just say "older than", not "above" age 16
Done Shannon [ Talk ] 03:28, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
References
  • What makes ref 4 a reliable source?
Done, replaced Shannon [ Talk ] 16:36, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is TopoQuest a reliable source?
It should be, right? Since it's basically a portal for viewing USGS topo maps, which I would consider authoritative. Shannon [ Talk ] 19:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • What makes ref 20 a reliable source?
It's part of this series of documents published by the National Park Service. Shannon [ Talk ] 06:13, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • ref 25 needs a page number.
Why? It's just a single page. Shannon [ Talk ] 23:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • same with ref 28. and ref 24.
Should I replace the : inline page numbers  with page numbers in the ref? Shannon [ Talk ] 23:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • What makes ref 32 a reliable source?
Done, replaced with two new refs. Shannon [ Talk ] 06:25, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • What makes ref 35 36 a reliable source?
Done, replaced Shannon [ Talk ] 02:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • What makes ref 50 51 reliable?
Done, replaced Shannon [ Talk ] 02:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think summitpost is reliable (ref 54 55). I avoid it at all costs for volcano articles.
  • ref 55 56 needs publisher/magazine info.
Done Shannon [ Talk ] 06:27, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The prose looks good, but the references are a bit concerning here. Let me know if you have further questions. ceranthor 00:21, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

General
  • Make sure you use the serial comma consistently (either use it or don't)

@Shannon1: - not sure you saw that I posted comments yet, but they're all above. ceranthor 17:48, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Thanks for the review. I've been mostly off Wikipedia for a while but I will be responding to your comments soon. Shannon [ Talk ] 18:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. Give me a ping when you've addressed them all. ceranthor 02:07, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Shannon1: Have you finished addressing these? Let me know ASAP please. ceranthor 17:36, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ceranthor: I'm almost done, except for the references. Still trying to find a couple of alternative sources. I did leave a few questions for you up there. Thanks! Shannon [ Talk ] 17:39, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Shannon1: I think just the one question I had to reply to, otherwise your response cleared it up. Anything left for you to cover? ceranthor 12:27, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ceranthor: I think that was all, actually. Traveling now but I'll be able to edit soon if anything else pops up. Shannon [ Talk ] 16:36, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Shannon1: Great. Happy to pass now. Just try to fix that lake image formatting issue please. ceranthor 17:08, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! I'll go do that right away. Shannon [ Talk ] 17:45, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks More Like a Stream[edit]

This river, based on many of the photos included, appears to now be more of a stream, than a river. How does that get wound into the article to reflect the current reality, rather than posterity? Stevenmitchell (talk) 13:08, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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