Talk:Kodak/Archives/2017

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Hello, Wikipedia Volunteer!

I would like to include the following additions to the timeline, as Kodak has had many new noteworthy announcements.

January 1, 2015: Kodak announced that it will be moving to five business divisions: http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/money/2014/12/04/kodak-realignment-divisions/19883359/

February 2015: Kodak finalized a film supply deal with major Hollywood studios: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-kodak-studios-deal-celluloid-film-20150204-story.html

June 2015: Kodak announces partnership with Oak Ridge National Laboratory. The partnership "is intended to provide support and resources with new and growing companies, particularly in the clean energy sector." :http://innovationtrail.org/post/kodak-announces-partnership-between-ebp-and-oak-ridge-labs

January 2016: Kodak announces plan to release new Super 8 camera: https://www.wired.com/2016/01/kodak-and-yves-behar-team-up-to-revive-the-legendary-super-8-camera/ AND https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/video/news/kodak-announces-super-8-revival-new-camera

March 2016: Kodak announces "it is in talks to sell its Prosper enterprise inkjet business and also plans to exit silver metal mesh development, focusing instead on developing touch sensors on copper mesh technology." : http://www.wsj.com/articles/kodak-in-talks-to-sell-prosper-enterprise-inkjet-business-1458080347

Please note that I work for Eastman Kodak Company currently. My name is Meagan Ramplin. Thank you SO much for your continued support and help with all things Wikipedia.

MeaganRamplinEKC (talk) 19:43, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Not done. Interest in such developments tends to be fleeting, and, while often newsworthy, they are not necessarily suitable for an encyclopedia, which requires sources with more in-depth coverage to put topics in context. Also, Wikipedia is not a platform for advertising or promotion of a company's products or services (the existing § Timeline should probably be reduced or split off into a separate article). Please see WP:NOTNEWS and WP:PROMO for more information. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 12:35, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Kodachrome camera?

Kodak Retina Series Cameras were produced between 1949 until 1956. It also had the KodaChrome Technology That camera should have been able to use any kind of 35mm film, in what sense did the camera have "KocaChrome Technology"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Elson (talk • contribs) 03:55, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 24 September 2015

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Moved as proposed, per consensus. bd2412 T 17:50, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Eastman Kodak → Kodak – WP:COMMONNAME, as indicated by this ngram: [1]. "Kodak" will also include entries for "Eastman Kodak" of course, but since the prevalence of Kodak is more than five times that of Eastman Kodak, it seems clear that the basic name is still more common. WP:NCCORP also favours this: "Whenever possible, common usage is preferred (such as The Hartford for The Hartford Financial Services Group, Inc. and DuPont for the E. I. du Pont de Nemours and Company)." — Amakuru (talk) 08:18, 24 September 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 00:45, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Oppose there is the company, and then there are its divisions. The entire company is better represented at its current name "Eastman Kodak", while its photographic efforts are better at "Kodak". The company was also a chemical company. This article is sorely lacking in coverage, as it is missing alot of the corporate history that isn't about photography, such as the former division Eastman Chemicals and the current division Kodak Chemicals -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 06:36, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough, but as you say, this article is not really about the whole corporation and associated brands, it's just about the photography company. If we are to have two articles, then this one should be moved to Kodak, and a new Eastman Kodak written to cover the parent company. — Amakuru (talk) 14:28, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Oppose per 70.51.202.113. "Eastman Kodak" is used for the company and "Kodak" for its branding of products. (cf. Ford Motor Company and Ford). — AjaxSmack 01:18, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Support: Even if this company is or was involved in some non-photographic activities still this article can be moved to "Kodak" as per WP:COMMONNAME. Website of the company is also named Kodak.com.--Human3015^TALK 22:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Support - Commonly used title for the company that emerged from bankruptcy. Why not create Kodak (brand) then? Maybe it might be content fork. George Ho (talk) 16:37, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Support - WP:COMMONNAME, of course. Even if the scope is extended to include more of the non-photographic aspects of the corporation, Kodak is how it's usually called. --В²C ☎ 04:22, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Support per WP:COMMONNAME since it is the company's common name. The company is also primarily known for its work in photography, which is why the article focuses almost exclusively on that topic. Calidum 01:43, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Support per COMMONNAME. The current name seems to be an official name. There is an odd history to this.

The original name of the page seems to be "Eastman Kodak Comany". An official name, which if ever was commonly done on Wikipedia, is no longer normal practice.
The official name has long been recognized as ridiculous. See, for example, Talk:Eastman_Kodak/Archives/2011#Naming "Who on Earth calls Kodak "Eastman Kodak"? "Look! I got my new Eastman kodak camera!" (2006)
Late 2011, there was activity looking at the title. Talk:Eastman_Kodak/Archives/2011#Requested_move found a consensus to move. It was shortly later moved back Talk:Eastman_Kodak/Archives/2011#Revert_the_move. Then there was no consensus for Talk:Eastman_Kodak/Archives/2011#Moving_back_to_.22Eastman_Kodak.22.3F, leading to it staying at the long term stable "Eastman Kodak".

RM discussions currently are pretty ill-disciplined, but back in 2011 it was worse. I don't know that I am being much better, but I think "Kodak" is well used and better recognized than "Eastman Kodak", and that if "Eastman Kodak" were preferable, then it should go all the way to the full official name of "Eastman Kodak Company". However, I think the past arguments that the company needs to be distinguished from the product of the company is incorrect. The company products are, as they should be, summarised in this article, with a few product spinout articles structured as daughter articles to this main article. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:25, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

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