Talk:Kol Mevaser

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Is this the official page?

Also, does the name of this article need the parenthetical disambiguation if the article about the newspaper is romanized Kol Mevasser (with an additional S)? —Wiki Wikardo 23:21, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kol Mevaser, as far as I know, does not have an official web page. LGFN (talk) 20:07, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

@Wiki Wikardo: 9 years later and I have the disambiguation question. I agree with your assessment that the title can stand on its own. Any misunderstanding can be cleared up with a hat note, as is already the case at Kol Mevasser. Havradim (talk) 20:50, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So Y not do it? תנא קמא (talk) 21:03, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done by Danski454. Thank you. תנא קמא (talk) 22:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 June 2019[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Moved (closed by non-admin page mover) Danski454 (talk) 00:07, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kol Mevaser (Yiddish broadcasting) → Kol Mevaser – There is no need to disambiguate this article name because the only conflict article, Kol Mevasser, has a different spelling, and any misunderstanding can be dealt with by use of a hatnote. However, the preferred name is already in service as a redirect to the current (disambiguated) name. Havradim (talk) 21:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:2DABS and WP:MALPLACED: In addition to the small difference in spelling, I see that the redirect has been targeting this article for 10 years, so it is stable. Also, the Yiddish broadcaster has much higher page views (shown here) and the other topic has been defunct since 1872 and thus is unlikely to be associated with any upcoming hot news. —BarrelProof (talk) 23:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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News broadcasting[edit]

תנא קמא, what do you mean by it is common sense to call a Haredi news hotline broadcasting? That term has historically referred to radio, television, and more recently internet—most assuredly not telephone communications. It is not 'commonly' referred to like this anywhere, and if it is please bring a reliable source to prove it or otherwise revert. Original research doesn't work here. Havradim (talk) 21:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Havradim: the secular world does not use telephone line as broadcasting as there are much more efficient and comfortable weays, like radio, tv etc. But Haredi jews that are not using these ways use hotline as alternative.

see Broadcasting:

Broadcasting is the distribution of audio or video content to a dispersed audience via any electronic mass communications medium

תנא קמא (talk) 22:11, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I take your point that telephones, especially cell phones (if that's what you are referring to—analog might be different) could fall under the definition of electronic devices, and this source makes the connection between telephones and mass communication, so we have a very narrow window through which we can take the leap to broadcasting and shake hands on it and end this question with a sort of תיקו, i.e. letting it remain for now until someone else can demonstrate otherwise. Havradim (talk) 22:43, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Broadcasting: "Telephone broadcasting (1881–1932): the earliest form of electronic broadcasting (not counting data services offered by stock telegraph companies from 1867, if ticker-tapes are excluded from the definition). Telephone broadcasting began with the advent of Théâtrophone ("Theatre Phone") systems, which were telephone-based distribution systems allowing subscribers to listen to live opera and theatre performances over telephone lines, created by French inventor Clément Ader in 1881. Telephone broadcasting also grew to include telephone newspaper services for news and entertainment programming which were introduced in the 1890s, primarily located in large European cities. These telephone-based subscription services were the first examples of electrical/electronic broadcasting and offered a wide variety of programming." תנא קמא (talk) 23:00, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nice catch there, except that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. On the other hand, I would have never known that a telephone can be paper, so maybe the Category:Yiddish newspapers can be reinstated. Havradim (talk) 23:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]