Talk:L7 (band) discography

Redundant boxes?

What's the difference between the "Other appearances" box and the "Compilation" box? They both have "Compilation" at the top of their respective boxes, in the legend. I'll merge the two (after double checking) if no one objects. -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 10:19, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:04, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for responding to this one. I dug a little deeper, and here's the backstory: In June of 2016, an anonymous IP editor split the "Compilation appearances" table into "Appearance outside their albums" and "Compilation appearances" and left the cryptic edit summary "Separated the compilation appearances taken from their albums and those not present there", never to be heard from again. (Between now and then, someone changed "Appearances outside their albums" to "Other appearances", clarifying the language, but ironically further obfuscating the meaning). I'm trying to give this editor some credit since although they only made two edits at this address (there was a second, thirty minutes later, with the edit summary of "Little corrections to my previous edit"), they don't appear to be a first-time editor (literate, albeit incomprehensible edit summary, a literate second edit summary, the patience and ability to deal with the table code, etc.). Do you have any idea what they're on about? I haven't dived into the two lists yet because I really don't know what I'm looking for. -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 22:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

PS: If you want to see some more L7 drama, go to the last section of the Talk page for the main article.

Oh wow, kudos for digging into that. I think what the editor meant to say is that one list (Compilation appearances) includes L7 album tracks that appear on compilations, whereas "Other appearances" are non-album tracks on compilations. Does that seem plausible? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 00:54, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

That seems very plausible, and research based on that hunch should be straightforward. That's an interesting distinction I personally don't mind keeping (see, I told you I had good vibes about that editor). Assuming that's the answer, I see three choices: keep the two tables but indicate their difference in a better way, re-integrate the tables and somehow indicate the difference in the table (maybe with a new column?), or we could reintegrate and ignore the difference. The most important thing is what is most useful for readers, both in content and in ease-of-use. We could look to president, but if you followed up on my PS above you've seen that I don't mind bucking president when it's common sense to. -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 00:33, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

I personally don't mind going against precedent if it makes practical sense to do so. My suggestion would be to integrate the tables and indicate the difference in a "notes" column. Thanks! Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 00:32, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

I was hoping you'd weigh-in on the "adding label names to Discographies in articles that have external Discographies" debate on the Talk page of the main L7 article. -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 13:57, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Videos are not "singles"

@Revirvlkodlaku:Regarding your recent edit of my "from a single" to "single" in the Videos section of this article: we're describing the source of the video, not the video itself, thus my "from". (I see you left all the "from"s for the videos that come from albums.) -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 08:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

I just got it: "From the single". Maybe it was the informality that caught you. -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 12:04, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi Pete Best Beatles, it wasn't the informality or the lack of a definite article that led me to make the change. Whether it says "from a single" or "from the single", it still seems wrong, grammatically. Why not just leave it as "single"? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Howdy. Because it's not a single, it's a video derived from, or "from" a single. I think the verbiage for the singles should parallel that of the other formats. (BTW, my two phrases don't seem grammatically wrong to me.) -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 01:36, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Pete Best Beatles how can a video be "from a single"? You can say it's the video "of" a single, but "from a single" isn't correct. Besides, the songs you are referencing are singles, so the video is therefore also a single. I believe this is how videos of singles are referenced. Also, currently, one of the videos listed appears to be a best-of compilation. Is that an error? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 04:40, 7 October 2022 (UTC)