Talk:LaDainian Tomlinson/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: NSNW (talk · contribs) 18:38, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try and get to this as soon as possible; I have some other things I need to do personally but this should be done in 1-2 weeks. NSNW (talk) 18:38, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@NSNW:, Just checking on this as it's been four weeks. Harper J. Cole (talk) 23:24, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, I was completely distracted by other things currently in my life. I'll get to work on it tomorrow. NSNW (talk) 01:30, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
Is it verifiable with no original research?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Status query[edit]

NSNW, Harper J. Cole, where does this review stand? It's been over a month since the most recent post to this page, and the review has been open for four and a half months. Is there any chance it can get moving soon? BlueMoonset (talk) 19:50, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BlueMoonset, I think NSNW has been less active lately. I stand ready to make changes as needed. Harper J. Cole (talk) 20:07, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@BlueMoonset, I've been taking a break from Wikipedia for a little while, mainly because of schoolwork and burnout tbh, and I completely forgot about this nomination. Now that it's break I can focus on it. Give me a few days and there will be more progress. NSNW (talk) 14:18, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

9: How is this source reliable?
59: Same here.
60: Again, explain how this is reliable.
253, 354, 355, 395, 445: This an official team page, I would rather have a more independent source. Not necessarily needed for GA standards but would be much preferred.
315: I can't exactly tell what this source is, looks to be a sub-section of USA Today based on it's style, but would like further explanation on how reliable it is.
328: This source doesn't look reliable at a first glance.
439: This source also doesn't look reliable.
451: Had to click this link to see where it came from, it's reliable but reformat the citation to include the article name, who wrote it, and the name of the source itself.

Besides those all of the other sources look GA worthy. NSNW (talk) 21:54, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

9 I couldn't find a more reliable citation, so I've deleted this.

59, 60 This information doesn't seem readily available, and some of the numbers I found contradict each other. Deleted as a more reliable citation can't be found.

253, 395, 445 Couldn't find an alternative, but they seem worth keeping

354 Deleted as no alternative found, and yards from scrimmage are a less notable stat than rushing yards

355 Changed to two different sources

315 Changed to different source

328 Changed to different source

439 Changed to different source

451 Amended Harper J. Cole (talk) 23:00, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment from BeanieFan11: about "nflcombineresults" and "draftscout" (59 and 60), although I can't recall them being discussed, they seem to be treated as reliable as they're each cited on over 500 articles and one of them on over 2,000. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:06, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've temporarily restored the measurables box; I'll start a thread at the NFL project and see what people think about the sources, which appear to contradict each other. Harper J. Cole (talk) 20:52, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then. The sources are good for now. Unless consensus occurs that those sources are unreliable I'll say keep them in. NSNW (talk) 21:29, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prose[edit]

Initial Findings:

Early life[edit]

"Tomlinson did not see his father very often afterwards"; change it to 'afterward'.
"Tomlinson was able to meet Smith while attending a camp run by Dallas Cowboys' tight end Jay Novacek."; Grammatically it's correct, but the generally the way these sentences are written in football Wikipedia articles is to write it as 'Dallas Cowboys tight end' instead of 'Cowboys.

College career[edit]

"Prior to Tomlinson's arrival,"; change to 'Before Tomlinson's arrival'.
"He was their single-game, single-season and career record holder in both rushing touchdowns and rushing yards"; I prefer the Oxford comma and I don't know how many times you did or didn't use it but for now change this to 'single-game, single-season, and career record holder'.

2002 NFL season[edit]

"Tomlinson tied or broke numerous franchise records during the course of the season"; 'the course of' is redundant, remove it.
"San Diego were 8–4 after beating the Broncos"; 'was' to 'were'.
"He again led the league in touches with 451, which proved to be a career high"; add a hyphen to make it 'career-high'.

2003 NFL season[edit]

"Tomlinson finished with 1,645 rushing yards, third most in the league. He averaged 5.3 yards per carry, sixth-highest among backs with 100-plus carries; this would be the best average of his career."; hyphenate 'third most' and add 'the' before sixth-highest.

More to come later tomorrow. NSNW (talk) 03:23, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've amended these now. Harper J. Cole (talk) 14:54, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing:

2004 NFL season[edit]

"On August 14, Tomlinson signed an eight-year contract worth $60 million dollars, with $21 million guaranteed."; the MOS states that it should be '$60 million', the 'dollars' is redundant.
"Tomlinson's individual yardage numbers were down from the previous season,"; 'individual' is redundant.
"and he had barely half as many reception with 53."; 'receptions' should be plural.
"During the sudden-death overtime period San Diego gained a first down at the New York 22"; add a comma after 'period'. NSNW (talk) 22:14, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2006 NFL season[edit]

"The Chargers began their regular season with a 27–0 win at Oakland, Tomlinson rushing 31 times for 131 yards and a touchdown."; should be 'with Tomlinson rushing 31 times'.
"A fumble recovery by Shawne Merriman soon afterwards gave San Diego the ball on the Denver 7."; change it to 'afterward', and specify '7' as 'Denver's seven-yard line'.
"that was his 28th rushing touchdowns of the season"; change it to 'touchdown'.
"Tomlinson's personal good form continued,"; 'personal' is redundant, remove it.

2008 NFL season[edit]

"Tomlinson rushed five times for 25 rushing yards and a trushing ouchdown before his groin injury forced him out of the game"; I think you mixed up a t here, 'rushing touchdown'.
"His 344 touches, 1,536 scrimmage yards and 12 total touchdowns also represented a clear drop from the previous season."; Oxford comma, add one after 'scrimmage yards'. NSNW (talk) 22:30, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Now covered up to this point. Harper J. Cole (talk) 23:20, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2010 NFL season[edit]

"Tomlinson stayed injury-free, missing only the regular season finale, when he was rested with the Jets assured of a wildcard appearance in the playoffs."; remove the comma after 'finale'. NSNW (talk) 23:05, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2011 NFL season[edit]

"Greene, now the main running back, had over 1,000 yards, but the Jets rushing attack were ranked only 22nd in the league, while their offense as a whole were 25th. Tomlinson's new pass-catching role yielded 42 catches for 449 receiving yards and two receiving touchdowns; he averaged 10.7 yards per reception, a career high."; the two 'were's' should be changed to 'was', and add a hyphen to make it 'career-high'.

Legacy and playing style[edit]

"He also rushed for 22 touchdowns, caught four and threw another three"; Oxford comma after 'four'.
"In goal line situations"; hyphenate 'goal line'.
"An elusive runner in the open field who would use stiff-arms to break tackles"; remove the hyphen in 'stiff-arms'.
"When Tomlinson's number was retired in 2015, a trio of analysts on NFL.com placed him 3rd, 7th and 8th respectively on their lists of top running backs in the Super Bowl era."; Oxford comma after '7th'.
"In 2021, statistical site Pro-Football-Reference.com ranked him as the fifth-best running back in NFL history."; change it to 'the statistical site'.

Personal life[edit]

"Tomlinson has his own charitable foundation called Tomlinson's Touching Lives Foundation."; change it to 'Tomlinson has a charitable foundation'.

That's pretty much all I've got. Once these are corrected this is a passing review. NSNW (talk) 00:58, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All amended now. Harper J. Cole (talk) 01:27, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good work! It took a while but we finally got this nomination to pass. Now I can focus on other things. NSNW (talk) 02:36, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]