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Lady Saso
Hangul
사소부인
Hanja
娑蘇夫人
Revised RomanizationSaso Buin
McCune–ReischauerSaso Buin

Lady Saso (Korean사소부인; Hanja娑蘇夫人) lived in the Jinhan confederacy during the first century BCE. She was also known as Sacred Mother of Mt. Seondo (Hangul:선도산) and she was from a Chinese royal family.[1][2][3] She came from China to Jinhan confederacy and gave birth to Hyeokgeose of Silla and his wife Lady Aryeong.[1][2][3] There are specific descriptions about her in the Samguk yusa (Memorabilia of the Three Kingdoms) and the Samguk Sagi (History of the Three Kingdoms).


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Lady Saso
Hangul
사소부인
Hanja
娑蘇夫人
Revised RomanizationSaso Buin
McCune–ReischauerSaso Buin


There are two royal women in Silla called Lady Saso. One is Lady Saso (Korean사소부인; Hanja娑蘇夫人), the mother of the first Silla king, Park Hyukgeose, and the other is Lady Saso (사소부인, 四召夫人), the mother of the 37th King Seondeok of the Unified Silla. The two ladies have the same name, but the Hanja notation is different.

'"Lady Saso"' (사소부인, 四召夫人), Her father is King Seongdeok of Silla, and her husband is Haechan (海 飡) Hyobang (孝芳), 9th generation of Naemul Maripgan (Naemul of Silla).  When her son, Sangdaedeung, (上大等, chief of the Noble Association) Kim Yang-sang (金良相) became King Seondeok, she was honored as Jeong-ui taehu (貞懿太后, grand queen dowager Jeong-ui).[1]


Another Lady Saso (Korean사소부인; Hanja娑蘇夫人) or Lady Passo lived in the Jinhan confederacy during the first century BCE. She was also known as Sacred Mother of Mt. Seondo (Hangul:선도산) and she's called also Seondosan St. Mother" (仙桃山聖母) or Seonsulsan St. Mother (西述山聖母).  西述 is another notation for her name, Saso(娑蘇). She is a mythical figure related to the narrative of the birth of Park Hyukgeose, the first king of Silla (one of the hypothesis of the birth of Park Hyukgeose). Her folk tales begin with the tradition that she, the birth mother of Silla's founder, Park Hyukgeose, crossed the East Sea from the northern continent (origin country unknown) to Mt. Seondo in Jinhan Saro-guk area (Gyeongju, Korea today) to gave birth to him. So there are no historical accurate record of her nationality, birth, real name, and age. Because in 《Samguk Sagi (History of the Three Kingdoms)》, 〈Volume 1〉 Park Hyeokgeose, Kim Bu-sik, there isn't mention Lady Saso.[1] However, Kim Il-yeon wrote the narrative of Park Hyukgeose that he was born from an egg of a horse descending from the sky in 《Samguk yusa (Memorabilia of the Three Kingdoms)》, while also describing the story of Lady Saso and she was written as the daughter of the Chinese imperial family who came to Jinhan confederacy and gave birth to Hyeokgeose, founder of Silla in 《Three Kingdoms of Korea》 (between B.C. 18 ~ A.D.660) and his wife Lady Aryeong.[1][2][3]. [1][2][3] This content is similar to what story "Queen Heo Hwang-ok" (허황옥 or 허황후,許王后), wife of King Suro of Geumgwan Gaya (Garakguk), said that she was a princess of Ayodhya, which seems to be related to the migration of our ancient people from the continent to the Korean Peninsula.[4] In addition, Jeompiljae (점필재 : Pen name) Kim Jong-jik (김종직) presented the possibility that Lady Saso as the same person as the Sansin of Mount Jirisan and korean poet Seo Jeong-ju interprets her stroy as the conception of a virgin birth.[5] These myths of national foundation seems to be the influence of the myth, in which the belief in the Great Mother Goddess or female Sansin prevailing in the southern part of Korean Peninsula at that time in the Three Kingdoms era. That's why the discussion about Lady Saso continues." Lollingonline (talk) 21:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Lollingonline: If the people with the name "Lady Saso" are different people (which I think they are from above), then they should have separate articles. We will later move (rename) the independent pages and turn this one into a disambiguation page. However, you have to create the new pages first; see WP:YFA on how to do so.  Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 00:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  2. ^ a b c d 野村伸一. 東シナ海周辺の女神信仰という視点 (PDF). 慶應義塾大学日吉紀要. 言語・文化・コミュニケーション No.26. 慶應義塾大学日吉紀要刊行委員会. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2016-11-16. Retrieved 2017-01-22.,p3
  3. ^ a b c d 延恩株. 新羅の始祖神話と日神信仰の考察 ― 三氏(朴・昔・金)の始祖説話と娑蘇神母説話を中心に ―. 桜美林大学桜美林論考『言語文化研究』第2号. 桜美林大学. Retrieved 2017-01-22.,p94
  4. ^ Three Kingdoms keyword dictionary 허황후. Korea Creative Content Agency.
  5. ^ Park Tae-soon. 나의 국토 나의 산하. Han Gil-sa, 2008.