Talk:Lars Pålsson Syll

Notability and BLP PROD tag

This discussion was moved here from User talk:Mr. Stradivarius#Lars Pålsson Syll. — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 14:01, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello Stradivarius.Oh yes Lars Pålsson Syll is infact live and well and exist.He have a page on Swedish wikipedia with references and all.He is a wellknown economic professor.The problem is i don´t really not that good to editing on wikipedia with all the tools.Maybee you could help me out with it.My best regards.(J. Milch (talk) 10:59, 17 April 2012 (UTC))

Thanks for the message - I've added a link to the Swedish article to the page. To remove the deletion notice, all you need to do is find one reliable source that gives him a reasonable amount of coverage. If you want help with referencing, check out the beginners' guide to referencing. I also recommend that you read the notability guidelines for academics, as Syll needs to pass these for him to have a Wikipedia article. Let me know if you have any other questions. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 11:10, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Stradivarius!I added reliable sources to Professors at Malmö University there he works and his creditatials CV and to his personal blog.My best best regards! (J. Milch) (talk) 11:41, 17 April 2012 (UTC))

I'm afraid those don't count as sources for judging notability - we need sources that are not connected with Syll. I will let you off if you can demonstrate how he passes the notability guidelines for academics, though. At the moment, I can't see anything that he has done that would make him pass the guideline, but I am always open to correction. — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 12:06, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

What he done??He been active in economic reasearch and international debate at highest level for since about 25 years,Mostly is his work in Swedish but also in english .Here you have list of publication over the years with all sources references to publications all with years publisher etc. If thats not good enough for wikipedia i don´t want to waiste more time to go back and forth argueing.Just delete it.I don´t bother.I just tried to do some contributs.Here is Publications and books by Lars Pålsson Syll:

Samhälleliga val, värde och exploatering. En ekonomisk-filosofisk kritik Filosofie doktor avhandling i ekonomisk historia. Lund 1991.

Den strukturanalytiska traditionen. En studie i ekonomisk teori- och metodutveckling i Sverige Studentlitteratur Lund 1997.

Utility theory and structural analysis. Four essays in the history of Swedish Economic thought Ekonomie doktor avhandling i nationalekonomi. Lund 1997.

Den dystra vetenskapen Atlas Stockholm 2001. Ekonomisk teori och metod. Ett kritisk-realistiskt perspektiv Studentlitteratur Lund 2001.

Vad bör kommunerna göra – ekonomi och marknadsreformer inom den kommunala sektorn Jönköping University Press Jönköping 2002. (Medförf: J Appelquist & K Nyberg)

Den sociala ekonomin – en osynlig och outnyttjad resurs. Studieförbundet Vuxenskolan Jönköping 2006. John Maynard Keynes SNS Förlag 2007.

De ekonomiska teoriernas historia Studentlitteratur Lund. Fjärde utvidgade upplagan 2007.

Gnu Regression, Econometrics and Time-Series Library - en introduktion till Gretl Forthcoming 2010.

Ekonomisk doktrinhistoria Forthcoming Studentlitteratur 2010.

Artiklar [redigera]Pre-Industrial Economic Growth. Scandinavian Economic History Review 2/1992.

Notes on Neoinstitutional Economics. Scandinavian Economic History Review 2/1992.

Cassel and Revealed Preference Theory. History of Political Economy, 3/1993.

Wicksell on Harmony Economics: The Lausanne School vs. Wicksell. Scandinavian Economic History Review 2/1993.

Myrdal's Immanent Critique of Utility Theory. History of Political Economy 3/1998.

Long cycles Routledges Encyclopedia of International Political Economy vol 2, 2001.

Revealed preferences Routledges Encyclopedia of International Political Economy vol 3, 2001.

The spread of Italian economic thought in Sweden, 1750–1950 I P F Asso (red), La diffusione del pensiero economico italiano all'estero, 2001 (Medförf: Bo Sandelin).

The Lausanne School vs. Wicksell. I D A Walker (red), The Legacy of Léon Walras, Edward Elgar, 2001. Ekonomi utan ränta. En teorihistorisk studie. Insikt 2000:1.(with: Svante Lingärde).

Den nya ekonomin – industrisamhällets femte våg. Insikt 2001:2. (with: Svante Lingärde).

Amartya Sen on Neo-Liberalism. Insikt 2004:1.

The pitfalls of postmodern economics : remarks on a provocative project. I Peopled economies: conversations with Stephen Gudeman Collegium for Development Studies, Uppsala University 2005 (with: G Helgesson, A Hornborg, S Löfving).

En forskningspolitisk kursändring behövs. Praktik & Teori 2/2006. I globaliseringens spår. Impuls 1/2007.

Kunskap och nationers välstånd. Ekonomisk Debatt 3/2008.

Future macroeconomics - viewed from the perspective of Keynes methodology and critical realism.' Nordom-konferensen 2008.

Vargarnas frihet leder till fårens dödArtikel om Naomi Kleins "Chockdoktrinen"och Johan Norbergs "Allt om Naomi Kleins nakenchock" DN 25/6 2008.

Var är nyliberalernas självkritik Artikel om finanskrisen. Newsmill 28/9 2008.

Den irrationella marknaden Artikel om finanskrisen. DN 24/10 2008.

Finanskrisens anatomi Videoföreläsning om finanskrisen på Glokala folkhögskolan 31/1 2009.

Riksbankens räntesänkning meningslös utan stort stimulanspaket Newsmill 12/2 2009. Lönesänkningar gjorde miljontals människor arbetslösa under trettiotalsdepressionen Newsmill 10/3 2009.Best regards (J. Milch (talk) 12:48, 17 April 2012 (UTC))

Thanks for all those references! I think that these, plus the new references that have been added to the article, are enough to prove that Syll is notable. Sorry for making you worry that the article would be deleted - I don't think there's any more danger of that happening now. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 00:28, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Lottery

I am confused about the idea of the central bank withdrawing bank notes with a given final digit. This seems to just tax physical bank notes. I do not use them much these days - plastic is easier. In the short term it would hurt the poor and in the longer term would have no effect at all. Am I missing something? Aymatth2 (talk) 01:45, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

As i understand Pålsson Syll he thinks the basic problem today for ailing economy is that it's hard to jump-start the wheels. No one wants to give loans, unemployment is increasing by leaps and gross domestic product runs off a cliff. In this situation, the objective of a sustainable economic policy is to expand effective demand to get the gears to grab hold and give a new interchange.The established economic wisdom seems to be agreed that the Centralbank and monetary policy is no effective means when interest rates are approaching zero, as the Centralsbank can not very well cut interest rates below zero. But can it really not? Several of the 1900s most economists argued that it was possible. The German-Argentine economist Silvio Gesell pointed out already at the beginning of the century that the notes could be supplied with stamps that reduce their value by a certain percentage per year. At year-ends were the holders to exchange their old notes with new ones, which would make it possible to "taxing" the possession of money.

The system of stamped money ("stamp scrip") was the leading American economist Irving Fisher's blessing and Keynes argued that the idea was "fully sustainable". It would just make sure that the cost of stamp marks were added at a level that warranted an investment which was consistent with the achievement of full employment. Keynes wrote: "Consequently, the reformers have been on the right track, who sought a cure in the creation of artificial storage costs money by requiring that the legal tender, in order to maintain its role as money, periodically would be stamped with a certain cost, or to any similar action would be required. " Even Maurice Allais - French Nobel laureates in economics - made in the 1940s closely related ideas. Allais wanted to "facilitate and improve the competitive functioning of the economy." To achieve this would be the incentive for mattress savings eliminated by a continuous depreciation of the money that would drive down interest rates to zero. Yet another Nobel laureate in economics - Norwegian Ragnar Frisch - found Gesell's idea of ​​an automatic reduction in value of money "interesting".

These economists' ideas could give us valuable guidance on how monetary policy should be pursued in an economy with deflation and the traditional interest rate weapon seems increasingly toothless. It should be easy for today's decision makers to follow in their footsteps. Of course, the Centralbank's say you borrow $ 100 today and pay back 95 dollars a year. The snag is how the stimulus should look like, that would attract someone to lend on the conditions. But suppose the Centralsbank, while offering its 5-percent negative loan rates, announces that in a year, all the notes with a serial number ending in a digit between 0 and 9 - which is determined by a random number generator - no longer valid. This means that the expected return on holding the notes will be minus 10 percent. And then there will be no problem getting people to spend their money, instead of saving the mattress.

One can naturally achieve negative interest rates by simply turning deflation to inflation. If the Centralbank maintains - or preferably increase - its inflation, real interest rates become negative and therefore give people incentives to be like to borrow and spend. And in times like these it is what is needed! For it hurts when bubbles shortcomings. When the loan risk premiums are rising and deflation erodes asset values can be negative interest and inflation as well as an effective means to curb unemployment and stimulate the economy. I therefore could not see anywhere that Pålsson Syll advocate High Interest Rates what i read at least but the opposite, Low Inerest Rates.But it always hard to tell.One could have an opinion at one momement and of course change it.I hope i gived some correct answers but of course i could be wrong in my interprentations of Pålsson Syll.My best regards to you Aymatth2 you do a real good work on wiki! --J. Milch (talk) 03:59, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks for that explanation. It makes sense. Not a very practical suggestion, maybe, but I think Pålsson Syll recognized that. Aymatth2 (talk) 11:20, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Paul Romer?

Is there any reference that Paul Romer has really been an influence on L. P. Syll? (Marc.1337 (talk) 09:34, 8 October 2015 (UTC))

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