A fact from Layman Pang appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 October 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Layman Pang, a wealthy merchant and ZenBuddhist in Tang DynastyChina, once put all of his possessions in a boat and sank them in a river?
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What calendar are the dates in the article given in? Obviously not BC/BCE, else his death occurred before his birth. GeeJo(t)⁄(c) • 12:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know, but the guy's name, it seems, is not Layman. Should this article be moved to Páng Jūshì or Páng Yùn? (without the stuff on top of the vocals, perhaps?)Feureau 14:28, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Páng Jūshì is the most common name that this figure is known by in China and Chinese (as well as Japanese texts). The common translation for his name with English translators, then, is "Layman Pang" ("Layman" being a literal translation of "Jūshì"). That said, I think that more common English-language (as well as Wikipedia) standards of organization would put him under "Pang Yun"--Pang having been his surname and Yun being his given name. LinLang 16:20, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Jushi is the Chinese translation used for the Sanskrit Upasaka. So technically it means "Buddhist Layman" but that seems too cumbersome in translation. Since he is already very well known in English speaking Buddhis circles as "Layman Pang" I see no good reason to translate Pang Jushi any differently or not use it as the heading. I think the reference to the name "Pang Yun" should be in the body of the article. Gregory Wonderwheel (talk) 18:34, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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