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Reviewer: Jacedc (talk · contribs) 00:28, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

His work has received five Grammy Award nominations (one of which he won and three of which are pending) According to List of awards received by Lecrae#Grammy Awards, Lecrae has won two and lost three. This needs to be updated. Additionally, since this article is split, the respective lead sentence needs a citation.

Already seems to be

Done. --Mr. Guye (talk) 20:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He remembers going to church with his Christian grandmother This should be quoted. To state that he remembers as a fact isn't exactly encyclopedic – he may have claimed he remembered, so that's what needs to be said (in direct quote fashion). That said, some other stuff could be better suited as a direct quote since the information comes from Moore himself.

@Jacedc: I can't find the phrase you are referring to. I did see He has stated that he would go to church with his Christian grandmother. Could someone already have changed it? Mr. Guye (talk) 01:52, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Guye: Huh, I don't remember doing it, but there is a slight chance that was me while I was correcting the other minor prose issues. At any rate, as it stands is good enough for me.

Done Jacedc (talk) 01:54, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Citation reference 8 appears independently a lot throughout § "Life and career". It may be more useful to revise this paragraph and attribute it all to the reference just once, twice, or maybe thrice.

@Jacedc: Reference 8 appears to be "iamsecond". With this edit, I reduced it from 13 uses down to 7 by removing ref 8 if it appeared multiple times in a row. Not ideal according to your standards, you can reduce it further if you choose. --Mr. Guye (talk) 00:32, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me. Jacedc (talk) 00:40, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Then this is

Done. --Mr. Guye (talk) 01:53, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wanting to do the "mature thing" – Putting quotes just around those two words sounds as if the writing is challenging whether or not it was really the mature thing. I would suggest either not quoting this (just leaving it as bare text) or include more of the quote within the sentence.

@Jacedc: Yet again, someone already tried to fix it. Currently says Wanting to do what he considered the mature thing. The thing is, I don't know if that is actually a fix. --Mr. Guye (talk) 20:27, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Guye: Yeah, I would say just Wanting to do the mature thing or using a full quote sentence. Jacedc (talk) 20:30, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jacedc: Actually, now that I think about it, Wanting to do what he considered the mature thing is WP:NPOV and doesn't actually challenge the concept as much as Wanting to do the "mature thing". And your proposal of Wanting to do the mature thing seems like the article is agreeing with Lecrae instead of just stating the facts. So I prefer Wanting to do what he considered the mature thing. --Mr. Guye (talk) 20:39, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A girl Moore attended high school with was there, and she invited him to a Bible study, where he met his future wife. – This needs clarification. Was his future wife the girl who invited him to the Bible study, or was it someone else? Why not state who this girl's name is?

@Jacedc: Again, someone must have changed it. I see A girl Moore attended high school with was there, and she invited him to a Bible study, where he met Darragh, his future wife. --Mr. Guye (talk) 02:06, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Guye: Yeah, someone must be addressing these themselves.

Done Jacedc (talk) 02:32, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Moore says that it was "right after high school" at age 19 that he finally decided to live for God, though "it wasn't overnight" and he "spent a lot of time making bad decisions." – Similar to the "mature thing" thing, these quotes break up too often. I would suggest quoting the entire sentence if possible.

Done Jacedc (talk) 13:40, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~§ Conversion – I'm not entirely convinced this should be its own section.~~

@Jacedc: It's notable in his life and influenced many of his further actions. Plus, it is in a very small subsection that doesn't overemphasize it but also makes it easier for readers to find information on it. Mr. Guye (talk) 23:45, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I see your point. It just seems weird to have a non-conventional section that otherwise isn't matched by a similar scheme throughout the rest of the article. But it's not a big deal. Jacedc (talk) 23:48, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This incident finally convinced him to commit his life to Christ. – I would change this either to "Moore says this incident is what finally convinced him to commit his life to Christ." or "This incident convinced him to commit his life to Christ." if Moore didn't say it but a different source.