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Primary instruments[edit]

I altered this write up. Seems the original author forgot Leon plays piano and keyboards. That is his primary instrument always has been. Otherwise it is a nice write up. Thanks

Among Leon's instruments listed in the side box is "bass guitar", but surely "guitar" should also be included? He played lead when an arrangement called for it (e.g. on Mad Dogs and Englishmen) and is often pictured in photos and album art playing guitar. I would edit the entry myself but I'm unsure how to do it in the side panel and don't have time right now to work it out. Cheers.

  • Leon was a multi-instrumentalist playing: piano, keyboards, bass guitar, guitar, harpsichord and baritone horn. Telecine Guy (talk) 23:54, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Omission from discography[edit]

JLH: Isn't LEON LIVE missing from the discography? Of all the Leon albums to leave off...

  • Fixed some time ago, thank you. Telecine Guy 21:23, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Clapton[edit]

If anyone can tell me on which album(s) Clapton played, I'd like to (or for you to) add it to the discography. It doesn't need to have its own page, a lot of them don't. Thanks. MightyMoose22 >Abort, Retry, Fail?_ 10:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eric played on Leon's self-titled solo album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.26.217 (talk • contribs)

Thank you. MightyMoose22 >Abort, Retry, Fail?_ 10:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This Masquerade[edit]

The article makes it sound as though Russell wrote "This Masquerade" in 1976. Some readers might construe he wrote it for George Benson. The song appeared on his "Carney" album, which was released in 1972.

I don't see the song mentioned at all at this point - a glaring omission - unless I missed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.16.30.185 (talk) 12:16, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fixed today, thank you. Telecine Guy 21:24, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Paragraph 10 link to The Wedding Album ...[edit]

... takes you to a listing for a Duran Duran album ... and since I have no idea what I am doing here I can't figure out how to get that message to the powers that be ... figured leaving it here might get it across ... Thanks!

Inconsistency here…

Leon Russell (born Claude Ruby Bridges on April 2,

Birth name: Claude Russell Bridges

which is it??

Xodiaq 18:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC) x[reply]

  • Claude Russell Bridges. Fixed some time ago.Telecine Guy 21:22, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Too Tulsa-centric[edit]

The article seems to focus too much on Russell's relationship with Tulsa and his role in Oklahoma life than on his musical career, which is why he's here at all. Do we really need to know about his former houses? Rodparkes 01:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think you've got a valid point here, especially in respect to the houses.
Re: "The home is now owned by Tulsa chiropractor and Leon Russell enthusiast Dr. F.J. Huskey.":
Although real-estate agents would like you to believe otherwise, you can sell only a house; you can't sell a home--or, as Burt Bacharach and Hal David once put it, "A House is not a Home".
Re: "...a fond reminder of the days gone by for the now-grown kids in Oklahoma.":
I can't help wondering if one of these "now-grown kids" is the author of this passage--and similar passages. It doesn't belong in wikipedia. TheScotch 06:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not much bothered about that stuff, one way or the other. I was just undoing the work of a vandal and of a banned user. Best regards. -- Lonewolf BC 06:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The history strikes me as fairly convoluted here, and I'm not sure I quite follow it. Anyway, Rodparkes's last edit seems to have improved this part of the article considerably. TheScotch 05:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leon's first songwriting hit: "This Diamond Ring" from 1964 for Gary Lewis & The Playboys. I've been a fan for 40 years, he's the BEST!!! Penoops (talk) 21:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)Penny[reply]

Leon has written many great songs, but "This Diamond Ring" is not one of them. He played on the Gary Lewis record, and did the arrangement but did not write the song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:2C66:8960:996E:6932:1E6F:CE67 (talk) 16:54, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoyed this article[edit]

Kudos to the editors! There is on u-tube a version of "A Song For You" with Leon Russell, Willie Nelson and Ray Charles, which you editors might enjoy. It is my favorite. Do not know how to link it or I would. Great article - one of my favorite (although somewhat unappreciated) artists. Glad to see an article about him! Mugginsx (talk) 12:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have to second the above, Great Article! Thanks to all the editors who put it together.

Cheryl Hugle (talk) 19:21, 9 May 2013 (UTC) Cheryl Hugle[reply]

I was fascinated to see what a varied and impressive career this artist has had, but I think too many people have tinkered with the article and many of them cannot write grammatical English, which does the subject no favours. Also, it is strange to have both a table-format discography and a lot of individual entries for albums as free-standing paragraphs. Poor for style. COuld do better.IvanTheGrumpy (talk) 13:55, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are still issues with the article but it used to be much worse. I spent a bit of time fixing some of the grammatical/style issues. It's a byproduct of the community ownership model. At least we've got all this good information in one place with links to more. Bob Caldwell CSL (talk) 14:07, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for the feedback, all the major albums are now added with ref.Telecine Guy (talk) 02:24, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sugaree Noel is following her father footprints![edit]

Earlier this year Leons middle daughter Sugaree Noel Bridges released her first album "The American Dream" I have a copy of this that I got from his official site. You can hear so much of her father in her even though their musical styles are totally different. I think any Russell fans will enjoy hearing her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.58.213.97 (talk) 20:16, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a fansite. - Sitush (talk) 07:20, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Step children?[edit]

Almost 15 years ago, I made the acquaintance of someone by the name of "Nick" who claimed to be a step child? of Leon. If anyone has information about this, please post. Nick borrowed my 30+ year old Harmony guitar and never returned it. Contacting Leon (rather his staff) has not proved to be successful. 216.43.159.152 (talk) 19:04, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Methinks you lost that one, friend. This is a question more suitable for Yahoo! Answers, or some such. ArticleTalk pages are specifically intended only for the improvement of the article, and for explanations and discussions pertaining to those improvements. Sorry you lost your axe. Rags (talk) 15:59, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Career[edit]

In first reading the career section, it seemed to be a veiled attempt to create a biography for Russell to promote him as a sideman for the purpose of his Rock'n'roll Hall of Fame Sideman Inducteeship. Example: I added a paragraph about his 1972 tour as a soloist and it was deleted IN TOTAL as "fluff". Granted it was a bit overly colorful but the fact of the 1972 tour and the recording of "Leon Live" deserved mention. It should have been edited but not completely deleted. Russell was considered a rockstar in his own right in the early 70's. (Tulsa Area Archives at preservemusic.org referers to this period as Russell's "Solo years"). So I just now re-added a fully referenced redo of my '72 tour paragraph that is as unfluffy as possible.( The November 4 1972 issue of Billboard refs. that $3 million tour gross, which was a huge sum at that time.) Russell's "solo" live shows at stadium venues are not ancient history. This period is memorable and significant. Leon's work behind the scenes is fascinating, and he has been duly honored for it. But his superstar solo status from 1972 to about 1974 stands out, and shouldn't be buried by spin doctoring. Kgenereux (talk) 04:41, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

With no prejudice against the content of the paragraph you added, you say it is "fully referenced" when it appears not to be referenced at all. The current version does look quite verifiable, so all it needs is a nice little inline reference. The Billboard issue would work for that, if you have page numbers and so on. Please take a look at WP:CITE for how to do this, and feel free to ask me or someone else if you get stuck. (Fwiw, the article could use quite a few more sources, as well as a copyedit. I'll try to get around to that soon.) Rivertorch (talk) 05:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again Rivertorch. Finally back here. I added some citations for that billboard business. Also noted his work as an arranger and added a billboard ref for that as well. You might also notice, I did some editing, so I hope you deem it worthy. Trying not to rewrite except where a big improvement can be gained. Doing my best to not step on original author'e toes, but see what you think. Kgenereux (talk) 19:34, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Step away (on toes, I mean). There's a lot of info here, and kudos to any and all who have compiled it. It is not presented or organized well, however, and I see a lengthy road ahead. Am about halfway through a rough copyedit now. Lots more to do (including sourcing). Rivertorch (talk) 08:51, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did a little more toe stepping...fixing a little of this and that. I can try to help you seek out some unbiased references for some of the info here...Kgenereux (talk) 01:55, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Concert tickets[edit]

I moved the following text

(It might be noted that in 1972, the average concert ticket was $5.00.) <ref name="Billboard Magazine">[ Billboard, "The Earnest Promoter", December 15,1973, p.14). </ref>

out of the article and over here for discussion. I think I understand why it was added—to illustrate that $3 million was a lot of money back in the day—but am finding it sort of jarring; it sounds as if most readers (blissfully unaware of inflation) will dismiss $3 million as peanuts without being reminded that the dollar just isn't what it used to be. What I think would be preferable would be some sort of ranking (e.g., nth biggest concert draw in 1972) or comparison (grossed more than everyone but x, y, and z). If the Billboard article provides such info, great. If not, maybe the ticket price sentence can just be reworded somehow. Rivertorch (talk) 05:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1979–2009[edit]

The 30-year gap does need to be addressed in the article. Perhaps only briefly, and certainly with great care, but it should be addressed. Rivertorch (talk) 06:26, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fixed, you are welcome, thank you, Telecine Guy 21:19, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

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Date of death[edit]

Listed as Nov 12 in the overview, Nov 13 in death/legacy Beaglemix (talk) 18:46, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • As he died in his sleep, it is not know if it was the 12 or 13. I my guess is there will be date given later.Telecine Guy (talk) 19:44, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Place of death[edit]

An editor has repeatedly changed the place of death from Nashville to Mt. Juliet. However I can find no reliable source to substantiate this. All the initial news reports said "Nashville", or in some cases "near Nashville". Legacy.com has an obituary (which may be taken from The Tennessean, but I haven't been able to verify that) that says Hermitage. [1] We have to follow the reliable sources, so unless something credible is turned up, the place of death will have to be changed back to Nashville as apparently reported in all the newspapers. --Arxiloxos (talk) 15:50, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Songwriter[edit]

I have just been given the impression he has several well known songs to his credit as songwriter,but not as the musician to make the song known. A listing of such songs would be vastly appreciated. Wfoj3 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:05, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find a list of songs he never recorded but were published or sung by someone else, and give sources, we might be able to add a section. --Light show (talk) 05:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have added many of his songs to the Article. I am sure there are more. He wrote many songs for others. Telecine Guy (talk) 00:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Festivals[edit]

In the section 2010s, ~paragraph 5, beginning "At the Lockin' Festival", am I missing something? Does this sentence make sense? I'm wondering if someone was interrupted while editing, and hasn't returned to correct the mishap. Rags (talk) 16:39, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed, Mucho grass.--Light show (talk) 20:50, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy Love[edit]

In 2000, "Leon Russell Group" released the album Crazy Love on CD. There is very little info available on this album. If anyone has info on this album a reply here would be appreciated. Does it have new songs, old songs, a mix? Allmusic only has the date and Leon Russell Group Label. The song Love Crazy is on Make Love to the Music album, so the title song is not new. Maybe it is Compilation album?[2] Telecine Guy (talk) 01:40, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Old Associated artist Leon Russell[edit]

Not all names in Article, here for ref:

oddly placed name list[edit]

The first paragraph under "1950s/1960s" has a list of performers that doesn't seem to me to be in the appropriate place. "As a solo artist...playing with artists as varied as..." is chronologically disjoint. Is this a list of people he worked with as a studio musician? If so, the "as a solo artist" is wrong; if not, then the list shouldn't be there. 17:01, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Good point, I agree and will work on it. The wording was from back when the page was much much shorter. Telecine Guy (talk) 03:48, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fixed, thank you. Telecine Guy (talk) 03:54, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Review[edit]

This article is full of poor writing, opinion and statements which are not supported by the sources. It needs a top-to-bottom review by someone who is neutral, rather than a fan, and who has access to all of the sources. I fail on the latter count; the major contributors to it appear to fail on the former. - Sitush (talk) 07:28, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank for the feedback, welcome to wikipedia, we are all volunteers, and it would be great to have professional writers. Even if a professional or very good volunteer rewrote the page, soon volunteers would be adding things they think are missing or deleting things they do not like or understand. But, you are still correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.152.234 (talk) 17:35, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Association with Wayne Newton[edit]

I just learned that Leon Russell contributed the piano playing to Newton's career defining hit "Danke Schoen" in 1963. This seems a significant enough credit that Wayne Newton should be added to the 'worked with' list at the beginning of the article. Any disagreement? Have a reference: https://books.google.com/books?id=IUYCMSnVH-oC&pg=PA137&lpg=PA137&dq=Leon+russell+%22Danke+Schoen%22&source=bl&ots=k6ZdQSRHQi&sig=ACfU3U2jD7c3PB7QOKRa4N60J5h8ysatVw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiFiIGx2M33AhVzZjABHYKwDxIQ6AF6BAg0EAM#v=onepage&q=Leon%20russell%20%22Danke%20Schoen%22&f=false Regionrat1234 (talk) 15:39, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No. He was a session musician. He played with a whole lot of people, mostly anonymously. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 16:30, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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