Talk:Liber de compositione alchemiae

Liber de compositione alchemiae was nominated as a Philosophy and religion good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (December 7, 2020). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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author[edit]

Homlyard does not identify the author^[1]
Enoch/Hermes to Adfad of Alexandria to Marienus to Kalid^[2]
Marienus^[3]^[4]
Khalid b. Yazid^[5]

References

^ Holmyard, Eric John (1957). Alchemy. Courier Dover Publications. pp. 106–. ISBN 9780486262987. Retrieved 11 January 2013.
^ Spence, Lewis (1976-06-01). Occult Sciences In Atlantis, The. Health Research Books. pp. 79–. ISBN 9780787312923. Retrieved 11 January 2013.
^ Haeffner, Mark (2004-06-30). Dictionary of Alchemy: From Maria Prophetessa to Isaac Newton. Karnac Books. pp. 149–. ISBN 9781904658122. Retrieved 11 January 2013.
^ Lembert, Alexandra (2004). The Heritage of Hermes: Alchemy in Contemporary British Literature. Galda & Wilch. pp. 15–. ISBN 9783931397524. Retrieved 11 January 2013.
^ Ahmed, Maqbul; Iskandar, Albert Zaki (2001). Les différents aspects de la culture islamique: The Different aspects of Islamic Culture. UNESCO. pp. 46–. ISBN 9789231038310. Retrieved 11 January 2013.

Complete rewrite November 2020[edit]

This article used to state that The Book of the Composition of Alchemy translated in 1144 by Robert of Chester is a work by Jabir ibn Hayyan. However, this must be a mistake, since neither the expert sources on Jabir, nor the expert sources on The Book of the Composition of Alchemy mention any such thing. Instead, it is well-known that it belonged to the books attributed to Khālid ibn Yazīd (c. 668 – c. 704). Apaugasma (talk) 20:09, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Book of the Composition of Alchemy/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: David Eppstein (talk · contribs) 05:29, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This has recently been rewritten by the nominator from a stub into...a longer stub. It has only a lead section and a list of reprints, in particular far from MOS:LEAD (Good Article criterion 1b). It says almost nothing about what is in the book, or who it might have influenced. The long bibliography is barely used, and presumably contains much more information about this work. It does not even mention one of the claims to fame of this work, that it was the first to use the word "alchemy" in English (De Roure, Wilcox, & Chamberlain 2017, [1]). In short, it is very far from addressing the main aspects of the topic (Good Article criterion 3a). There are no illustrations even though one could presumably find copyright-free reproductions of old editions (Good Article criteria 6). The bibliography formatting violates MOS:BADHEAD (part of WP:ACCESSIBILITY); this is not one of the MOS guidelines listed in the GA criteria, but I think it's important, and arguably falls afoul of Good Article criterion 2a. In short, I think this was not near ready to have been nominated for GA, and is so far from passing that it falls under WP:GAFAIL. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:44, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This review was fast. Twenty minutes. It was so fast, it almost whooshed away a little spark of light in the dark lands of wikignorance, no questions asked. @David Eppstein: please go and read the article ... slowly ... then read it again, even slowlier. Translated into vernacular languages ... sixteenth century ... completed 11 February 1144 ... vernacular languages ... sixteenth century ... Latin word ... alchemia ... and as your Latin world does not yet know what alchemy is ... material substance ... Eventually, it will come to you. Then, if you really have some time, try the following wiki pro-tip (note 4): "most recent status quaestionis also in Dapsens 2016"; now just see if there's anything in there "about what is in the book, or who it might have influenced". Apaugasma (talk) 09:27, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[Holmyard1957-1] Holmyard, Eric John (1957). Alchemy. Courier Dover Publications. pp. 106–. ISBN 9780486262987. Retrieved 11 January 2013.

[Spence1976-2] Spence, Lewis (1976-06-01). Occult Sciences In Atlantis, The. Health Research Books. pp. 79–. ISBN 9780787312923. Retrieved 11 January 2013.

[Haeffner2004-3] Haeffner, Mark (2004-06-30). Dictionary of Alchemy: From Maria Prophetessa to Isaac Newton. Karnac Books. pp. 149–. ISBN 9781904658122. Retrieved 11 January 2013.

[Lembert2004-4] Lembert, Alexandra (2004). The Heritage of Hermes: Alchemy in Contemporary British Literature. Galda & Wilch. pp. 15–. ISBN 9783931397524. Retrieved 11 January 2013.

[AhmedIskandar2001-5] Ahmed, Maqbul; Iskandar, Albert Zaki (2001). Les différents aspects de la culture islamique: The Different aspects of Islamic Culture. UNESCO. pp. 46–. ISBN 9789231038310. Retrieved 11 January 2013.

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