Talk:List of Greek Cup finals

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Corrections[edit]

I intend to make some corrections to the article that I consider necessary.--Kyopa (talk) 21:00, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Don’t. Your edits have been repeatedly reverted by multiple users and one admin. Blocked twice for edit warring here and on Greek Football Cup. But why am I talking to you? You ‘ll do it anyway. Abudabanas (talk) 21:06, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See them first and then talk.--Kyopa (talk) 21:27, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Examples[edit]

I give some examples of how two teams can be declared co-champions and consequently runners-up at the same time.

See that

The Champions Teams and the Championships of all Categories

OLYMPIAKOS: 65

Α Men's: 7 (1933, 1934, 1936, 1947, 1949, 1951, 1952)

Men's National Category: 2 (1969 *, 1971)

A1 National Men: 23 (1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 , 2019)

ETHNIKOS: 50

Men's Category: 16 (1931, 1948, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966)

Men's National Category: 9 (1967, 1968. 1969 *, 1970, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976)

(Note: Co-champion with Olympiakos)

You see, we have co-champions in Water polo.

And in football:Ethnikos was one of the founding unions of Ε.Π.Σ. Piraeus, in the championships of which he was the main protagonist. During the time he participated, he won three championships in Piraeus, in 1928, 1929 and 1939, while he almost permanently occupied the second place in the remaining seasons. In the Piraeus championship of 1929, Ethnikos was declared co-champion with Olympiakos. Also in the 1935 championship starring Ethnikos and Olympiakos, it was not completed because EPSP considered that there was no point in continuing, considering that both teams would reach the final phase of the South championship, unofficially declaring them co-champions again this time.

And in football we have an example with two teams of co-champions. So the views on statistical paradoxes or errors are simply wrong. Wrong views that I paid unfairly without fault. If anyone has something to say, let them say it. Otherwise I will do what I have to do.--💫Kyopa▪ (talk) 21:33, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can gather, they were unofficially declared co-champions but an official winner was never declared. Since NOBODY actually won the cup, the 1961-62 shouldn't be considered a win for either team. Padgriffin ^{Griffin Noises} 13:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Padgriffin There are two cases. The first official and the second unofficial

1)In the Piraeus championship of 1929, Ethnikos was declared co-champion with Olympiakos.

2)Also in the 1935 championship starring Ethnikos and Olympiakos, it was not completed because EPSP considered that there was no point in continuing, considering that both teams would reach the final phase of the South championship, unofficially declaring them co-champions again this time.

In the Water polo See that is official too.--💫Kyopa▪ (talk) 14:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unofficial =/= Official. There has been consensus with sources on other pages that there was no official winner for the 61-62 cup- since nobody formally declared that they were co-champions, there were no co-champions. These things work on a case-by-case basis. Your own source notes that the match was abandoned and they were unofficially declared co-champions. Nobody is arguing that the CONCEPT is invalid, but rather that it shouldn't be used in this case. Padgriffin ^{Griffin Noises} 14:20, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]