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Episode number issue[edit]

There seems to be a discrepancy in the episode numbering. I have looked at the code and have been unable to find anything wrong. --Vreddy92 (talk) 13:04, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed The reference tag at the end of episode 3's listing wasn't closed. That meant the listing for episodes 4 and 5 were eaten up into the reference, so episode 6 was the first one to display properly again. —C.Fred (talk) 13:17, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robbarzzi[edit]

imdb spells Robbarazzi with one B but on Dan's Blog he spells it with two B's Jon23812 (talk) 02:13, 5 June 2010 (UTC)Jon23812[reply]

If Dan has it with 2 B's, I'll add 2 B's, Even though my cable guide has one B for title. QuasyBoy (talk) 3:02, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I saw the episode again, and it is 1 B, not 2. Dan probably got carried away with his B's. QuasyBoy (talk) 17:15, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Video Chat[edit]

On Dan's blog there he is asking poeple to choose a name for an episode and one of the episodes is similar to this title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.42.82.97 (talk) 20:26, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

iCarly & Victorious crossover[edit]

when time comes do you think we should included this episode on the page. So far it is counting as an Icarly episode and not a victorious episode. iCarly's production code would be 311-313. Even though it is a crossover between both shouws it only looks like an icarly episode. Also season 2 has not been picked up yet or anything has not been confirmed. If it does count as an episode for this show the production code would be 201-203. we might just have to wait to see what showfax gives us and see where they start o procuction codes. But it does look like an iCarly episode ony. give me your thoughts on what we should do when time comes.Saylaveer (talk) 11:33, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This edit [1] added in the episode, and I subsequently reverted it. (This also came with the user in question renumbering and recounting the episodes and I've just warned for disruptive editing, as the renumbering has occurred twice in less than a day.) I don't know if "iParty with Victorious" is appropriate to add even today, so will revive the discussion. MPFitz1968 (talk) 13:01, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This issue was settled 3 years ago and no reason has been given to change that decision by the anonymous editor who tried to add the episode here. Article iParty with Victorious reflects and explains it in the article. Nickelodeon has declared that this is officially an iCarly episode so it definitely does not belong in this article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:05, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Slap - CLIPS[edit]

The interactive website The Slap, which is supplemental to VICTORiOUS offers videos both from the show and exclusive to the website. They are tied to the show, and may arguably be classified as webisodes. Should they be incorporated into this article? If so, how should they be incorporated into this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.148.39 (talk) 06:06, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, If they don't air on T.V. then it doesn't count as an episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prcc27 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone edit this?[edit]

It might be just me, but my TV listings ( I have FiOs) says it's Tori's birthday and everyone celebrates with a song which drive her completely insane in the episdoe "The Birthweek Song". Now I think you should make note how that is way off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.209.250 (talk) 19:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is This A Source?[edit]

well is it? http://www.disneynickshows.weebly.com/victorious.html ????? Lilmissrusso (talk) 17:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not a reliable source. The giveaway is that it is hosted at a free webhosting site (weebly.com). The second clue is the email address of the site owner. Both suggest that the site has no official standing with Disney or Nick, and there is no evidence at the site of any editorial process that would make the site reliable.
That said, there's nothing wrong with you personally using the site as a jumping off point: if they mention a new episode, then go looking for mentions of the site at reliable sources such as TV Guide. You'll just have to only base your edits on the reliable sites and not the weebly site. —C.Fred (talk) 17:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Producers blog is NOT a reliable source for audience numbers[edit]

RS - the producer of the show has an obvious vested interest in presenting positive viewership numbers for the series and CANNOT be used a source for such numbers. Active Banana (bananaphone 19:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps not for ratings, but the blog is appropriate for other facts on inidividual episodes, as well as the show at large. ----DanTD (talk) 15:21, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
But you kept returning it as a source for the ratings numbers. Why? Active Banana (bananaphone 21:17, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Because I'm not using it as a source for the rating numbers. ----DanTD (talk) 16:31, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate use of bolding[edit]

WP:MOSBOLD is clear, there are only very limited circumstances when content should be bolded. As part of a column heading in a table yes. to highlight trivia within a table no. Active Banana (bananaphone 19:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The use of bolding for guest stars, absent main cast members, notes, songs, and the like is actually appropriate. ----DanTD (talk) 15:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And you see that as an allowed exception in the guidelines where? Active Banana (bananaphone 21:16, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, "absent cast members" is such cruft that it does not even belong in the article. and the "notes" are generally also inappropriate trivia and or interpretations.Active Banana (bananaphone 09:44, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Excessive trivia about cast members[edit]

There is absolutely no reason to mark whether or not a particular cast member appears in each episode. Such content is random trivia that is of no interest to the average reader of the article and of no encyclopedic value to anyone without third party commentary discussing why the person did not appear. Active Banana (bananaphone 19:39, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • WP:CB. Plenty of other episode lists mark whether or not a main cast member is absent in episodes. It's not a crime to add them here. ----DanTD (talk) 19:05, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that other articles are crappy and not up to Wikipedia standards is not a convincing reason to allow the rot to spread. Active Banana (bananaphone 21:18, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Your elimination of data is what's crappy. ----DanTD (talk) 16:33, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CRYSTALBALLING[edit]

We do not include TBA sections for future seasons. See WP:NFF. Until the season has actually begun production Wikipedia articles have no business presenting such an event as if we know it will exist. Active Banana (bananaphone 19:41, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The second season is still in production even as I'm writing this, and as you're denying that it's going to happen. ----DanTD (talk) 15:23, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a third party source to verify the production has begun? Active Banana (bananaphone 21:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't, but somebody else obviously did, and the production was actually finished by that time. ----DanTD (talk) 16:35, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tori Gets Stuck[edit]

Robbie is rushed to the hospital after an incident with Trina, and Tori offers to donate blood although the school play is only a few hours away, and it jeopardizes her leading role in a play. Jade, Beck, Cat and Trina go to the mall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MegaBasketball03 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Revisiting[edit]

I've added the important point that Sikowitz chooses to play the role that Tori was due to play when she's unable to. It's been removed due to there being a lack of context. However, there isn't a lead up to it, he simply chooses to do so - instead of her understudy Jade - with no lead up to it. If you can word it better, you're welcome to do so, but the conclusion to the episode shouldn't be omitted. An explanation can't be stated when it isn't portrayed. Jim Michael (talk) 15:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, you're not correct – there is ample lead-up to it: Tori gets blood drawn three times, which means she is too light-headed to continue in the play. That is when Sikowitz takes over. You completely left out the context of the situation. Try to draft something that takes all of this into account, and we can all then take a look at your proposed revisions to the episode summary and see if we approve. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I meant that there's no lead up to Sikowitz taking over Tori's role instead of Jade. Your explanation also doesn't even try to address that point. He takes the role without explaining why he rather than Jade is replacing Tori.
As you know, there's no obligation to draft anything & gain approval for it before submitting it.
If you can improve the episode's summary more than I did, you could & should do so rather than merely reverting me - that's what we're meant to do in this collaborative site. You know that him taking the part is easily important enough to include, so it should be there. Jim Michael (talk) 15:56, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rex[edit]

Didn't Robbie change puppets from the pilot episode? The first one had darker skin and a bigger head. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.230.62.5 (talk) 02:41, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pilots are generally filmed many months before there is any idea that a studio will actually "pick up" the show for broadcast. In those months, the sets, costumes, props etc. are frequently not saved because only a few of the pilots filmed do get picked up so it is very likely that he has a different puppet, BUT unless there is a reliable source that makes that cliam we do not put it in a Wikipedia article. Active Banana (bananaphone 04:32, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Correct Format[edit]

As with Disney Channel shows, the episodes in the page should probably follow this format, but many are taking advantage of this information.

  1. Summary
  2. Guest stars
  3. Special guest stars
  4. Absent
  5. Songs featured (These should only be ones released as singles or full songs) See List of Glee songs for more information.

I feel like guests are long-time contributors are not editing it properly. --DisneyFriends (talk) 15:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but User:Active Banana keep trying to have this format eliminated. Regarding the songs featured, this should only be displayed when songs are sung by the cast whethere there are singles available or not. In other words, no bacground music(i.e.; "Twentysomething America," by Chrissy Chase, "The Queen of White Lies" by The Orion Experience, "I've Been Waiting," by Jennifer McNutt, etc.). ----DanTD (talk) 16:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 24.131.30.165, 26 June 2011[edit]

I would like to edit these to put in details about each episodes like some shows do on Wikipedia.

24.131.30.165 (talk) 02:04, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. In order to edit the article yourself you will need to either wait for the article to become un-protected or create an account and then either get confirmed at Wikipedia:Requests_for_permissions/Confirmed or make 10 edits and wait 4 days to become confirmed.

Mistake/ Notes[edit]

Can someone please edit the episodes 'Prom Wrecker' and 'Pilot' because in the pilot Cat says "No one asked me to the prom last year, it's true" or something like that. While in prom wrecker when Tori asks Sikowitz to have a prom she states "This school has never had a prom". Can someone add somewhere in the episode section like a note about this mistake? And to confirm Cat's prom was in Hollywood Arts Rex makes fun of her about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.73.196.182 (talk) 13:34, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I also have a note/mistake. In the episode 'The Breakfast Brunch", Robbie is proven to be (and Cat is suggested) at being a vegan, however in "The Great Ping Pong Scam" Robbie eats caviar and Cat eats Lobster-Mash Potato. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.195.227.18 (talk) 18:41, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Dupewrest, 6 August 2011[edit]

The rating/viewers for the show S02E05, called "Prom Wrecker", is 3.6. It's the only rating which is missing in season 2. The source for that rating is: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/05/24/cable-top-25-lebrond-waded-rose-sharpays-fabulous-adventure-wwe-raw-top-weekly-cable-viewing/93717/ As you can see Victorious is ranked #23 which is the rating for "Prom Wrecker".

Dupewrest (talk) 08:16, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Added, including a full citation template for the source. —C.Fred (talk) 18:36, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to split details to season articles[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Consensus is to not split now - wait for more seasons completed

Editors have been WP:BOLD and have created articles Victorious (season 1), Victorious (season 1 ), Victorious (TV Series) (season 1), Victorious (season 2) and Victorious (TV Series) (season 2). All these article have been redirect back to here for now with edit histories stating unneeded split. This WP:SPLIT discussion is to see if there is now a consensus to split the article. Each article must independently be notable. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:18, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose: only two seasons and not (yet) even 30 episodes. No reason to split off yet; all information can be included here without becoming too extensive. Kevinbrogers (talk) 15:20, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: As it stands each season section in this article does not have the notability to be stand-alone article. I would like to see the season sections fleshed out more to see each section meet the WP:General notability guidelines before supporting a split. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:38, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: I agree there has to be more than 60 episodes to consider a split. for the iCarly spilt it took 3 years to go ahead and do the split for that split. For example, for that page, episodes were hard to find, the page was getting longer and we had over 70 episodes produced as well as other issues. I don't see any problems for that here. Dreamerforever (talk) 19:31, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now: Let's wait until the third season. ----DanTD (talk) 20:56, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I think that is a very good idea. Go for it =D Iluvselenagomez1234 (talk) 21:17, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Above said oppose but reading of the text indicates Support for the split. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:59, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to move to close the discussion. It's been nearly a month, with no responses in three weeks. Furthermore, all of the above votes are for oppose (though one does imply support instead). Wait a few more years, then bring this up again. Kevinbrogers (talk) 21:08, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to wait a few more days because anon 92.20.137.6 today created a season 2 article [2], which I reverted and pointed to this discussion. I asked the editor to comment User talk:92.20.137.6 and would like to give the anon a chance to make a case. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:08, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The aforementioned user hasn't appeared to have edited anything since October 26, and he/she has not given a valid reason as to the creation of these articles. This should probably be closed now. Kevinbrogers (talk) 05:04, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Quotes in each episode necessary?[edit]

Is it really necessary to include randomly selected quotes from each episode? I believe this to be a waste of space. 65.254.159.13 (talk) 18:43, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The quotes are totally unnecessary trivia and the selection is some editor's opinion of what would sum up the episode in some way. They should be removed as copyright violations with no WP:fair use shown. Quotes belong in Wikiquote with proper attribution, not here. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:22, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Season assignments[edit]

Has it really been confirmed that "Blooptorious" is the final season 2 episode? Has it really been confirmed that "A Christmas Tori" will be the season 3 premiere? All we know is the airdate of "A Christmas Tori", and it appears that their season assignments in this article is based solely on which was announced first (I realize that seasons can overlap, but there is still no reference to support the episode order presented here). Kevinbrogers (talk) 20:30, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"A Christmas Tori" was filmed during production season 3 (evidence is from Dan Schneider's youtube account), but Blooptorious was filmed during production season 2. It's really safe to say, A Christmas Tori is Season 3 while Blooptorious is the finale of season 2. --Muppet321 (talk) 15:43, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A christmas Tori is season 2. As you will see from the section further down on this talk page nickelodeon have confirmed that season 3 starts end of Jan 2012 and since Nickelodeon are the bosses i think we have to go by what they say! Colinmotox11 (talk) 15:51, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nickelodeon shows always have this issue. Schneider gets a production order and films a bunch of shows for a given production order (reflected in production code). Nickelodeon defines broadcast seasons for its own reasons and chooses which shows (and they can mix and match from different production runs if they so desire) and which order to broadcast in a given season. iTunes also buys the shows and likes to bunch them by production code. This article is stated to be about a Nickelodeon show so should match Nickelodeons definition of what they say a season is. Schneider doesn't get to make that call. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:11, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Nickelodeon are the bosses, they broadcast the shows, so this article goes by what they say, not what Schneider or iTunes say. Because this is a 'list' it should be in order of broadcast not order of filming. I agree with you totally. Colinmotox11 (talk) 17:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ping-Pong vs. Ping Pong[edit]

In the title for Season 1, Show 11, "Ping Pong" is listed as "Ping-Pong". The Ping-Pong spelling is not common for this episode on the Web. IMDB, for one, uses no hyphen (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1614915/) same for TV.com (http://www.tv.com/shows/victorious/the-great-ping-pong-scam-1336899/). I would suggest removing the hyphen (although it is the proper spelling, it will likely not match published TV schedules).

TV Guide [3] lists the episode as "The Great Ping-Pong Scam". Amazon [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045TZ02A] sells the episode and lists it as VICTORiOUS Season 1, Ep. 11 "The Great Ping-Pong Scam" as does iTunes. Whether or not the wrong spelling is the most common, I'd tend to go with what the official spelling is. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:46, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Christmas Tori is listed in the wrong season.[edit]

A Christmas Tori is a Season 3 episode not season 2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.165.254.251 (talk) 18:48, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well Nickelodeon have said that Season 3 doesnt start until the end of January! >>> https://twitter.com/#!/NickelodeonTV/status/151694163086286849 Colinmotox11 (talk) 19:01, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
iTunes lists it as season 3, episode 1. However, there's some interweave with the blooper episode. Since there are conflicting sources right now, i'd say to go with what Nick says until/unless more sources say it's part of season 3. —C.Fred (talk) 17:20, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well Nickelodeon are in charge as they broadcast and fund the episodes so i think we have no choice but to go with they say. Colinmotox11 (talk) 18:15, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nickelodeon sometimes promote incorrectly. Dan Schneider even says that "A Christmas Tori" begins season 3. --> http://twitter.com/#!/DanWarp/status/142992438431199232 WikiMaster500 (talk) 19:15, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Schneider said "season 3's ALL NEW OPENING CREDITS". Not specifically a season 3 announcement. From his perspective he cares about production orders and there is no question that this episode is the start of the third production cycle. Nickelodeon can't, by definition, promote incorrectly. They define their seasons. The source of the tweet above may not be stating Nick's official position, we won't know for sure until Nick starts airing promos and they may change their mind along the way. It is still the best we have about what Nick intends. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:45, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As has been said Schneider can only quote production cycles whereas this article defines the actual airing of the programs. Nickelodoen air the show and they fund and control it; Schneider basically works for them so hence we have to go by what Nickelodeon say! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colinmotox11 (talk • contribs) 19:49, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/victorious-news-season-2012-promo-cutdown-saturday-january-28th-N14544-01.html pretty much settles it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:31, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nickelodeon also promoted an episode of iCarly, "iDate Sam & Freddie" as the season premiere, but "iLost My Mind" was actually the first episode of that season. Therefore, in this case, "A Christmas Tori" was not promoted as the season premiere just like "iLost My Mind" but really is. This supports my reason that "A Christmas Tori" is in season 3.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SlbXXrukto&feature=related (iDate Sam & Freddie aired on September 10, 2011 which was when the "new season" began). WikiMaster500 (talk) 20:29, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This happened with an "I'm in the Band" episode where a season 2 episode aired during season 1. We all put the episode in season 1 as a special airing of a Season 2 episode. It's still counted as a season 3 episode, but aired during the season 2 airing time. - Alec2011 (talk) 20:23, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I put "A Christmas Tori" back in the season 3 table because even though it wasn't promoted as the season premiere, it is. Nickelodeon doesn't promote "incorrectly" but does have misleading promotions sometimes. Even Dan says that Nickelodeon can be misleading in their promos. http://www.danwarp.blogspot.com/2001/11/to-any-icarly-fan-who-didnt-like-istart.html WikiMaster500 (talk) 22:38, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And I put it back. Dan doesn't get to make this call and we have an authoritative reference that contradicts him. There is no confusion with "New Season of Victorious: Saturday, January 28th at 8/7c" Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. what some of you guys dont understand is that Nickelodeon are the bosses, Dan basically just works for them, they air the shows he makes and they fund his show making, Nickelodeon have clearly said that season 3 begins on January 28 so ALL episodes which air before that date go into season 2. Nickelodeon are in charge so they decide. ANY other source that says differently is WRONG. Colinmotox11 (talk) 13:28, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MSN is unreliable[edit]

While MSN TV and the website nickandmore have been able to know the name of an episode before it is officially announced, they have never gotten the airdates right on their first try; they claimed the iCarly episode "iOMG" would air in October 2010 (it aired in April 2011) and they claimed "Blooptorious" would air in November (it aired this week). Suffice to say, we can trust them for the names of episodes, but we can't trust them for airdates. --Muppet321 (talk) 18:54, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MSN TV has better fact checking and what they publish is what they get from the networks. The networks often don't air stuff when they plan to. The only time the air date is known for sure is after the ep airs. IMDb on the other hand is totally untrusted about future episode info and should never be used as a reference. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:50, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why would Nickelodeon tell MSN TV that it was airing an episode in October if it was gonna air in April? At any rate, iOMG was meant to air as the season finale so they could make new episodes to continue the storyline in the next season. --Muppet321 (talk) 02:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New Season 3 Episodes[edit]

There Are New Season 3 Episodes. The Breakfast Club, and The Worst Couple — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoshiMonsters1 (talk • contribs) 01:54, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Episode number issue 2[edit]

I think the numeration is wrong. Before everything, read the iTunes: http://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/victorious-season-2/id424100692 and http://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/victorious-season-3/id475488559. So, Season 2 have 12 episodes, and Season 3 (now) have A Christmas Tori. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.126.40.30 (talk • contribs) 15:17, January 4, 2012‎ (UTC)

See above comments about this issue. Basically Nickelodeon disagrees with iTunes. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:48, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Until the DVD releases, it'll stay under season 2. - Alec2011 (talk) 01:41, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That will more than likely change with the dvd release then and become a season 3 ep, Season 1 dvds were released in production code order not air-date order.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.24.229 (talk) 01:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nickelodeon have confirmed on numerous places that season 3 starts on 28 January, this is official and we will not be changing this. Colinmotox11 (talk) 23:37, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How do you make the charts colorful?[edit]

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January 28th episode confirmed/Unknown Title.[edit]

The Promotion just premiered. It is when all of the victorious gang gets detention for no reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesandfizz (talk • contribs) 04:47, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is "The Breakfast Bunch" https://twitter.com/#!/Victorious/status/160112361531904003 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.115.147.181 (talk) 11:28, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TV Ratings[edit]

There is 7 missing episodes with no rating. Can you fix it to make it complete? Thanks. —Fbi205agent (talk) 02:38, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 27 January 2012[edit]

Where it says on the season 3 area Andre's mean girlfriend, it has a spelling mistake of 'ori' instead od 'tori'. This should be changed because otherwise people may become confused. 86.148.225.254 (talk) 20:09, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like this has already been fixed. —C.Fred (talk) 22:48, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Andrews Crazy Moments[edit]

Andrews Crazy Moments is a youtube series involving ROBLOX. The youtube series involves the only main character, AndrewBlaBla or just Andrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imepic02 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Robarazzi[edit]

The audience of this episode is 6.5 million. In victorious wiki says the rating is 6.5 million.http://victorious.wikia.com/wiki/Robarazzi.190.38.116.74 (talk) 03:36, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Where did the Victorious wiki get their information? If you can provide us with that information, we'd be happy to put it in the article for you. Kevinbrogers (talk) 03:37, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok there is a part of the page that says Viewed By: 6.5 million. is a little below. 190.38.116.74 (talk) 03:58, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but where did that information come from? The Victorious wiki doesn't say how they know this. Kevinbrogers (talk) 03:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What's happen with blooptorious?[edit]

What's happen with the audience of this chapter? if all the chapters of the second season have audience... What's happen with this that has no.190.38.116.74 (talk) 02:47, 11 February 2012 (UTC) Jade gets crushed "Note" At the end Jade,Robbie,Rex,Cat and Beck go for spaghetti taco's. In icarly,Carly's brother Spencer makes the taco's as his speciality. Refer Itacos — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingethy (talk • contribs) 23:55, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Season 3 - Episode 8 - The Blonde Squad[edit]

On Wikipedia in spanish there's an additional episode called "The Blonde Squad".There's an unknown synopsis but Cat's seen on a date and she's worried for something.In other moment, Tori,Jade and Cat are using Blonde wigs.

--MS166 (talk) 17:56, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We'd need something in reliable sources before we could mention it here; other wikis aren't reliable. —C.Fred (talk) 02:16, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

is this any good? from dan's twitter - http://twitpic.com/8jffpt "8:55am - On my way to the @Victorious table read, for the new script "The Blonde Squad"... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.24.229 (talk) 01:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That tells us that a future episode will be titled "The Blonde Squad", but not which future episode. —C.Fred (talk) 01:37, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thats ok,no probs, could still be included just with no number though since it basically is a confirmed episode ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.24.229 (talk) 01:43, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why not make the table like iCarly?[edit]

Summarize the table, like remove the summary of the episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by L.C.G.W (talk • contribs) 00:03, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This was discussed above. Basically, there's no reason to split until more episodes have aired. Kevinbrogers (talk) 00:11, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think it may be time to reconsider splitting the seasons. --------User:DanTD (talk) 13:33, 9 October 2012 (UTC)""[reply]
I think the planned 60 episodes is too few, the current article is too short to need splitting and it would be 4 more articles to maintain. I do think it would be appropriate, since it has been a year, to start another WP:SPLIT discussion to see if there is a consensus now to split. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah most of Dan's shows have around 60 episode and the other shows are like this page. iCarly just had more episodes and the artilce was going much faster.

I think it would be beast to leave since there are going to be only 60 episodes.WP Editor 2012 (talk) 17:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 13 March 2012[edit]

Either Elizabeth Gillies or Daniella Monet was absent for 1 episode


BeckOl1 (talk) 22:11, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not only have you not provided a source, you aren't certain of what you want changed yourself.—Kww(talk) 22:19, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 14 March 2012[edit]

Please, change episode "A Christmas Tori" from Season 2 Episode 13 to Season 3 Episode 1, as both [http://www.amazon.com/A-Christmas-Tori/dp/B006IBKC5I Amazon] and iTunes list it so.

187.6.74.200 (talk) 14:50, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Season 3 started January 28 based on official Nickelodeon statements. Episodes broadcast before then are not in Season 3. Amazon and iTunes are not Nickelodeon and Nickelodeon defines what a broadcast season is. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:05, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Season 3 color[edit]

I originally changed the color scheme of season 3 to a darker red to reflect the color scheme of the other two seasons. I was willing to compromise with a little lighter red, but even that keeps being reverted. We need to come to a consensus, because it's silly to edit war over season colors. – Confession0791 talk 10:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was fine with that, however 'Bow-bb' claims it's "brown" and not red. Perhaps his screen settings are darker than mine because I saw red as well. - Alec2011 (talk) 05:29, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Bow-bb needs to comment here, or else we'll consider it closed. – Confession0791 talk 07:26, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, actually that color is not so bad. Bow-bb (talk) 15:52, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm bringing the discussion back up because this red fits a lot better with the rest of the season's than the light red there is now. The other Season's have a deep color while the red is washed out. The color I provided is a deep red and fits the page much better. - Alec2011 (talk) 18:52, 24 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, that's why I changed it in the first place. – Confession0791 talk 08:04, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 9 April 2012[edit]

Can you fix a bunch of typos, like "complety", "angerly", and "Steamboat Wille" (which should be Steamboat Willie). Also, does "Themselves" or "Himself" need to be capitalized?

69.243.238.163 (talk) 23:59, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed – Confession0791 talk 04:58, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Commenter "Nick" at TV by the Numbers[edit]

Lately in the TV by the Numbers posts, there have been sections at the bottom that say something along the lines of "Update: Lots of additional data (including some Saturday shows) from commenter Nick is below the table as well as in the comments." Should this be considered part of the actual article? It seems like it's just a copy and paste of what "Nick" is putting in the comments section. Since it was added to the actual article, should it therefore be considered reliable? Keep in mind, we still don't know who "Nick" is, and if TV by the Numbers didn't post it themselves originally. Kevinbrogers (talk) 18:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The original author added that info to the article so that author is vouching for its validity. We trust the original bylined author to do fact checking - what makes the article a WP:RS - so added info, from whatever source is just as valid when added by that author. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:19, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 5 July 2012[edit]

on the list of victorious episodes page on season 3 on the recent episode "the blonde squad" they have the actor who played evan smith wrong. the actual actor who played him was Max Carver. Thank you.

here is a reliable source. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3083571/

Jollyjez (talk) 23:14, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 7 July 2012[edit]

In episode "The Blonde Squad" I noticed "At Nozu Cat" I believe it should be "At Nozu, Cat" I might be wrong but I read it as "At Nozu Cat" which sounds like a thing called Nozu Cat (It might just be me who reads it like that) 99.129.2.92 (talk) 06:45, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done I agree, it flows better with the comma. —C.Fred (talk) 13:15, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request on 19 July 2012[edit]

Season 3 contains 27 episodes. They are done filming on July 20, 2012. That needs to be put in episode chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.9.205 (talk) 14:27, 19 July 2012 (UTC) There is no confirmation for 27 episodes for the 3rd season yet. The cast is fiming its last episode for the season, but wait untill the cast confirms tommorrow is the last day. Next edit request please provide a reffence for the finishing date.[reply]

 Not done. Is there a reason you can't create an account and correct it yourself?--Canoe1967 (talk) 06:27, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: "Don't want to create an account" is a sufficient answer to this. Having the {{edit semi-protected}} mechanism is the way people who don't want to create an account suggest edits to semi-protected pages. Also it takes more than just creating an account to be able to edit semi-protected pages. See WP:AUTOCONFIRM – have an account for 4 days and have made 10 edits. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I was just clearing the backlog of edit requests after a plea at the help desk. I found many as trivial and answered in a similar manner. Many pages like this one are watched by users than can edit the page so a regular request would work or wait until protection is removed. We are not in a hurry here.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:43, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
True, no hurry, but this page is protected until November 2, 2012. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:26, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The OP can feel free to open the request again if my response seemed a little harsh. I still feel that a regular talk page request would be fine as it is not a crucial edit that needs to be done to correct a BLP or other contentious protected articles.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest trying to edit the page when logged out to see what a drive-by user who knows very little about wikipedia but wants to contribute will see and what wiki recommends he do. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:05, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The user has contribs over 50 and 2 months that look fine to me. I can understand why they may not wish to get an account but don't believe the board should be backlogged by requests such as this. I still believe a normal request is fine and the IP can feel free to open the request again or create an account. I asked why they hadn't and still no response.--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:09, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How many episodes will be reduced the table without a summary?[edit]

How many episodes will be reduced the table without a summary? — Preceding unsigned comment added by L.C.G.W (talk • contribs) 21:25, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Number of episodes in the series[edit]

In http://www.danwarp.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/victorious.html Dan basically stated that there would be no more than 60 episodes produced for the series and that at that point in time he was finishing up an additional 15 episodes that have yet to be aired. The only way those two statements can be consistent is if the long episodes are considered by Nickelodeon and Dan as single episodes that go toward the 60 episodes limit they have stated they will complete. This is also consistent with normal practice and the guidance at template:Episode list for how episodes are counted. Episode numbers of the form 10-11 do not comply with the instructions in the template. It is not uncommon for a long episode to be taped as two productions because of the time taken to tape them but cut together in post production as a single long episode with a single set of opening and closing credits that are also merged to cover both productions. The final cut is what we care about, the process to get there is interesting but otherwise shouldn't matter. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:09, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have protected the page and moved it back to the version which is well referenced. However, please sort this out on the talk page rather than edit warring. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 11:54, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See above and edit history of ignored attempts to get a discussion going. The issue is about whether or not or not we should have content that directly conflicts with references in this article. Everyone seems to agree the references we are using are authoritative. Are we supposed to have a discussion about whether or not we should conform to the WP:Verifiability policy in this article? The only possible point of contention that could lead to changes in the article is if it is decided that the reference at http://www.danwarp.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/victorious.html is not a WP:reliable source and a better reference can be obtained. The "edit war" is about trying to keep the article in conformance to the references. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I would have to agree, considering the sources, regardless if the hour episodes were 2 separate episodes, they were aired as one hour long special with one set of credits, not two. Plus what Dan stated about not producing more than 60 episodes. All hour episodes should be listed as one episode with one not two. - Alec (talk) 16:39, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest we stick with TV Guide as a reference, http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/victorious/episodes-season-1/303439. If we do that everything is consistent with what Dan says. 60 eps total per Nick standard practice and 15 more past the 45 that have already aired to make that total of 60 episodes that Dan said will be produced. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The episodes are correct for the Show Season 1 has 20 Season 2 has 13 and season three has 27 episodes. I know we have to follow the episode guide, but do you realize that most shows on wikipedia do count hour episodes as two. For example, Lost, The Middle, Full House, Drake and Josh, Zoey 101, iCarly, Suite Life, Wizards of Wavery Place and others. All have episodes that have hour episodes but are counted as two episodes. I think victorious should be put back the way it was. Also tv.com counts the episodes as two. I still think we should just leave it as it was. If I have time I will bring up the issue on the template:Episode list. Most pages here and sites I have seen count them as two part episodes, regardless of the time and credits.Also if you look Dan said there are 60 episodes, so that means there should be 20 in season 1, 13 in season 2 and 27 in season 3 and that adds up to 60 episodes. If we go the eisode list rules that would be 19 in season 12 in season 2 and 26 in season 3. that adds up to a total of 57 episodes. Now that does not match what Dan, Nick, or [4] says.WP Editor 2012 (talk) 15:20, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're counting wrong. The current list shows 19 eps in season 1, 13 eps in season 2 and 13 ep shown so far (as of September 4, 2012) in season 3 for a total of 19+13+13=45 eps shown so far. Dan said there is another 15 yet to be shown and that there would be 60 episodes total. Given that info and what has been shown so far, there will be a total of 13+15=28 episodes shown in season 3 which is what the article says. So 19+13+28=60 matches the 60 that Dan stated would be shown.
What other sites (wikia for example) do is irrelevant to what we do here—they have different standards and procedures and don't meet the reliable source requirements for use as a reference on Wikipedia. TV Guide does meet the reliable source requirements. Other articles on Wikipedia that count long episodes as two or three when they only have 1 set of credits and are never shown partitioned into separate episodes are doing it incorrectly and should be changed. That is an issue for the editors of those articles to resolve—it doesn't set a requirement on us to do it wrong as well. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:19, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There are 20 episodes in season 1, 13 in season 2 and 27 in season 3. That still adds up to 60 episodes. I have seen Nickelodeon sites, and tv.com as well as the other Sources. The is should be resolved for all pages then and not just this one if you want to go by what the page says. Any the production codes for season 3 go up to 227. I seem a pic for the script on the last wekk of filming that says 327. So by putting A Christmas tori in season 3, that is 27 episodes for season 3. Plus Dan does say that it is a two part episode. For instance a couple weeks ago Dan put on his twitter that he was editing a two part iCarly episode, but will air as one ful episode.When I get a chance I will bring this up to template:Episode list.Also lookm at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Episode_list#Examples_2 it has an example for two episodes that has one set of cred's
Season 7
Main article: List of Degrassi: The Next Generation episodes (season 7)
Episode No.
Series No.
Title
Canadian airdate
Premiere airdate
Production code
1/2
108/109
"Standing in the Dark"
January 14, 2008
October 5, 2007 (The N)
701 & 702
3
110
"Love is a Battlefield"
January 21, 2008
October 12, 2007 (The N)
703
4
111
"It's Tricky"[1]
WP Editor 2012 (talk) 17:59, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The example at Template:Episode list#Examples 2 does not match what was actually done at Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 7)#Episodes and that example does not match the current descriptions for the parameters in the rest of the template documentation. Looks like the example was not updated to conform to the rest of the documentation.
Counting the long episodes twice would give a current count of 47 and with the 15 that Dan says will still be aired that means 62 episodes would be aired, not the 60 he said would be. The production codes are interesting internal info about the production process and for long episodes reflects that multiple production slots are being allocated in the production process. What actually gets cut together for final presentation should be what we report in the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:02, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Dan might of made a mistake then. Because he says Nick shows get around usually 60 episodes. he really never states that there are sixty episodes for the series. Also he says there is about 15 episodes left. Forget about Victorious for a sec. I will use iCarly as a better example, iCarly has produced 109 episodes and Dan says there are 9 left to air but there are really 7 episodes because two of them are an hour long. Nick and Dan confirmed that they made 109 episodes. But if we did not count them as two episodes that would leave us with 98 episodes counting them as one episode. Now for Victorious, 20 were produced for season 1,13 for season 2 and 27 for season 3. Which does equal 60 episodes. So i am guessing Dan meant really 12 episodes left. So 47 episodes have aired that should leave 13 episodes that have not aired. Since Dan was in a hurry typing the blog and from a cell phone, he must of just miscounted the number of episodes. Will see what happens. Also There have been some rumors that Nickelodeon is allowing Dan to produce a proper finale. Producers do make mistakes though. WP Editor 2012 (talk) 21:03, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tori Goes Platinum - conflicting information[edit]

iTunes and Amazon instant video show and sell this episode as a single 46 minute episode. TV guide shows this as two 24 minute episodes with sub labels "part 1 or 2" and "Conclusion". The episode originally aired as a single 46 minute episode. Not sure how reruns have been aired. TV guide seems to be the only source showing it as two episodes. Either way would work in the article as long as the two parts are shown as separate table entries per Template:Episode list instructions and the summary description reworked to be specific per each part. I think it would be easier and more consistent with how originally aired and currently sold to have the article reflect the single long episode version instead of what TV Guide states, however sticking with TV Guide does make the numbers all work out as stated above. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have converted this one into a "single episode". "TV Guide" splits all three of "Freak the Freak Out", "Locked Up!" and "Tori Goes Platinum" into separate "Part 1" and "Part 2" episodes, but iTunes treats all three as a single one-hour episodes, and Nick and TeenNick have never aired any of these three as separate episodes – they're always aired as a complete one-hour "single" episode. Bottom line: It makes no sense to treat "Tori Goes Platinum" one way, and "Freak the Freak Out" and "Locked Up!" in a completely different way. Either they're all one-hour "special" episodes, or all they're all "two episodes", and it makes more sense to treat all three the former way, regardless of how "TV Guide" is counting it... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:03, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@IJBall: Fine with me. However as part of episode renumbering need to check for any articles or redirects directly linking to the #epnn anchors and update them to reflect the new targets. Major reason I generally resist renumbering episodes in established series. See Rdcheck for redirects. And "what links here" for articles. List of songs in Victorious is a major one. Geraldo Perez (talk) 13:56, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved
 – I think... As long as nothing links to "#ep58", I think we're good... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:28, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@IJBall: Victori-Yes is a redirect and I retargeted to #ep57. I checked all the inbounds from redirects and fixed all the broken and wrongly targeted ones. Direct inbounds from other articles are a bit harder to find and fix – still looking. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:08, 23 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Season 4 of Victorious[edit]

"There is a whole NEW SEASON of Victorious coming your way. We just finished shooting 15 new episodes, and they're amazing. If you love Victorious, I feel sure you'll love the NEW episodes coming!" This is what Dan Schneider (the Executive Producer and creator of Victorious) said in this link... http://danwarp.blogspot.com/2012/08/victorious.html. shall we make a new section for the 4th season of Victorious? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prcc27 (talk • contribs) 00:17, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd prefer to see Nickelodeon make that statement. Dan doesn't get to decide what Nick markets as a new season even if he does have inside knowledge—Nick could change its marketing strategy up until it is announced. If there is a season 4 being marketed there will be a promo from Nick saying something about a new season starting at some future date. We shouldn't restructure the article until the official announcement. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:52, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And to add something. I have looked at many major websites, for example [5], [6], [7]. These articles make me feel very doubtful that there is going to be a fourth season. -Webclient101 (talk) 01:04, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Even given the above links you provided, Nick could still label and market the remaining 15 3xx productions as a new season. The gap is long enough and the number of eps enough for them to do so if they wish. Then again they might not and, if they say nothing about it, it is just a continuation of season 3. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:12, 29 August 2012 (UTC

So, we should wait for the official announcement as you said. --Webclient101 (talk) 01:19, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think that would be best. That was basically how we determined the start date of season 3 and episodes to include at the end of season 2 and the start of season 3 - a Nick announcement. A Nick broadcast promo that advertises the next episode as the start of a new season is equivalent to an official announcement. I would like to see a comment by Prcc27 to see if we have a basic agreement. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:30, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm in agreement!--Prcc27 (talk) 00:51, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So Is it a fourth season or a continuation of season 3 cuz like nick gave a bunch of commercials lately saying it is a new season. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.5.102.62 (talk) 20:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the commercial about Wanko's Warehouse and I do recall the commercial saying that Victorious will have a whole new season. But I'm still kind of confused on that.

Webclient101 (talk) 22:52, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nickelodeon did in fact confirm the new season of Victorious in a promo.--Prcc27 (talk) 00:30, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Yeah thanks for your edit, but it would be great if you added sources to the article regarding the new season, thanks. --Webclient101 (talk) 00:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just because Nickelodoen said it doesn't mean it's true. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOiNZhhuOg0&feature=plcp. In that promo, they said SpongeBob started a new season on September 16, 2011, but if you look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SpongeBob_SquarePants_episodes, you'd know that's not true. So just follow the first number of the production codes or the DVD's. Jon23812 (talk) 17:30, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it is true. Nickelodeon defines what a broadcast season is so it is pretty much a tautology that what they say is true. List of SpongeBob SquarePants episodes is wrong if it disagrees with what the network says. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:08, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Then how is it that Season 9 is stated to bring the series to over 200 episodes, yet your imaginary season 9 only comes up to 178 episodes? Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nickelodeons-spongebob-squarepants-renewed-ninth-67737 Jon23812 (talk) 19:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Inconsistencies in references are for the editors of that article to resolve. Has nothing to do with this article. There is no ambiguity with the references we have where Nickelodeon's stated season 3 and season 4 started January 28, 2012 and September 22, 2012 respectively. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:35, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Look, there is no season 4. Nick just says that to boost ratings. Take iCarly for example. The season 3 episodes are in the season two DVD, because those "season three" episodes, are really apart of season two. Victorious is no different. Jon23812 (talk) 19:50, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously Nickelodeon disagrees with you. We are going with what Nickelodeon stated. Their motivation for what they do is speculative but it is likely because every other network is starting a new season about now so Nickelodeon wants to as well and they have a block of 15 new episodes in the can ready to air. A season is a broadcasting construct. What is on the DVDs or iTunes is a separate issue and they tend to go by production cycles. The networks get to choose what episodes belong in a given broadcast season and that sometimes does not match production cycles. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:18, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If it is season 4 then why has everywhere (including dan himself) being writing and saying that Victorious wasnt renewed for a FOURTH Season ?? see ref #3 on the main page..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.24.229 (talk) 07:52, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dan's (and related) comments were made before Nickelodeon decided that the final 15 episodes he made would be aired as a new season. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:56, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I can understand that user's confusion because even in the blog Dan does states that "whole new season" of Victorious was approaching, which would market as Season 4 since the recent episodes were Season 3, however he later states that the show wasn't renewed for a fourth season. It's a bit of contradiction there, but he's referring to the Season 4 production cycle itself coming to light. If that's the case then I think he should have just said there were new episodes coming our way rather than just new season. We would have definitely understood Nick's decision afterwards to split off Season 3 like they did with "iCarly" when it came time to start airing it's last batch of episodes. - Jabrona - 14:18, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 9 September 2012[edit]

Hour long episodes are counted as 2 episodes not 1. So whoever corrected this made an error because the episode marked 119-120 is suppose to be marked as 2 production wise.

96.244.229.138 (talk) 03:55, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They are not two episodes so don't count as two episodes. See above discussions as to why single episodes, even long ones, are counted as one episode. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:05, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 9 September 2012[edit]

PLEASE READ IT'S IMPORTANT! Victorious season 1 had 20 episodes not 19. The begging on your knees was an hour special & hour specials are counted as two episodes, not one. Same goes for Tori Gets Locked Up, 2 episodes not 1, so season 2 should have 14 episodes in total. Look at the production code. Who ever is editing this is not doing a good job.

96.244.229.138 (talk) 14:58, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See discussion at #Number of episodes in the series. Add your comments and arguments there. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:14, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

@96.244.229.138, I know but we can't change it back until this is resolved. Yes you are correct, those episode are 2 part episodes. i am trying to convince Geraldo Perez that they are, He should of just left the page alone untill this was reolved. I am trying to get someone from the Nickelodeon project to this page. WP Editor 2012 (talk) 22:34, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Would be more convincing if they actually WERE 2 part episodes which all reliable source references (e.g. TV Guide, iTunes, Amazon) say they were not. References that say there were counted as two episodes are lacking - seems like a presumption with nothing backing it. Anyway discussions are on-going to see if reality will be overridden by concensus. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:44, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cheer Me Up[edit]

in the first part of Tori goes platinum shouldn't we put Cheer Me Up as a Featured song cause like she actually sang it in the episode — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.5.102.62 (talk) 05:04, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Do you have any sources that verify your information? --Webclient101 (talk) 05:08, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well yea if you watch tori goes platinum for her audition she sang cheer me up — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.5.102.62 (talk) 02:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Done, added it to the article with sources included with it. --Webclient101 (talk) 03:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Was my information wrong cuz someone took it out — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.5.102.62 (talk) 18:09, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have re-inserted the content and will be watching the article as best as I can. --Webclient101 (talk) 18:22, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 26 September 2012[edit]

96.244.229.138 (talk) 01:24, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

season one had 20 episodes, when a show has an hour long episodes it counts as two episodes not one. Can you fix it please?!


There are 19 episodes in season 1 as listed in TV Guide, iTunes and Amazon. 19 separate season 1 episode were broadcast by Nickelodeon. No reliable source double counts long episodes. There is an extensive discussion about this issue earlier in this page. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:33, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Does TV.com count as a reliable source? Because according to this [8], Freak The Freakout contains a part one and part two. --Webclient101 (talk) 03:13, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to this I'd say no as content is editable by anonymous users. Also conflicts with this, this and [http://www.amazon.com/Pilot/dp/B003ECSLGQ this]. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:36, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also I suggest searching at WP:RSN for TV.com in the archives. TV.com seems to be used in lots of articles as a reference but consensus at RSN seems to be that as a user edited source of info it is not trusted as a WP:RS. No real clear guidance on how it should be used - looks similar to IMDb - usable as an external link but not as a reference. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:54, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I just stumbled on that website and wasn't really sure if it was edited by anyone. But it's clearly similar to IMDB and worst that it conflicts with itunes, amazon and tv guide. But since that is the case, we'll keep the article how it is in till there is real reliable source. --Webclient101 (talk) 05:33, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 26 September 2012[edit]

96.244.229.138 (talk) 15:01, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I understand & yes he should have just left the page alone. He doesn't get the production codes

Nothing requested. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 30 September 2012[edit]


Note for Who Did It To Trina.

There is another note. Here it is: Freddie from "iCarly" is an audience member of Tori's play. Also the person who hurt Trina is Rex the puppet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrTechNews123 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


 Not done Information was already added about the cameo appearance of Nathan Kress and noting that Rex caused Trina's incident is basically giving away too much of the episode.

Webclient101 (talk) 00:09, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Link[edit]

In the episode The Hambone King you can´t put a link as unreliable because there is no evidence that that's the real audience. Please remove this link.186.26.213.65 (talk) 01:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the link as the info was in the comments section of an otherwise reliable source. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You again put other unreliable link. Please you don't put links unreliable.201.238.23.30 (talk) 22:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Change[edit]

TV guide confirmed that cell blocked would air Nov. 24 and Elizabeth Gillies confirmed that Tori Fixes Beck and Jade on Dec. 1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.187.227.220 (talk) 00:17, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can we truly be sure "One Thousand Berry Balls" will air on November 25 anymore? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 17:18, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Feb 2nd, "Victori-Yes"[edit]

Victorious season four episode, "Victori-Yes" (4x13), will air on February 2nd, 2013 Source

--Rickardo98a (talk) 23:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That link is not a reliable source and doesn't support your assertion anyway. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Viacom International Media Networks as reference[edit]

I removed info using http://www.b2b.mtvni.com/mtvni/programs/program.jsp?program=victorious as a reference. That reference shows "EPISODES: 60 X 30:00". Viacom International Media Networks is the international distribution arm of Viacom. Viacom also owns Nickelodeon, Viacom international is a separate subsidiary of Viacom so is not the Nickelodeon US cable network. Viacom International is selling for international (non US) distribution 60 30minute programs and as they are selling 30 minutes episodes and the actual episode length is approx 22 minutes, they are likely adding in non-episode content (commercials?) for those non-US markets served. The US record of what has aired for this show so-far is reflected at http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/victorious/episodes-season-3/303439 and to this point the article reflects that (other than the somewhat contentious issue of where the season breaks are). Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:10, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It really shouldn't matter. I know the victorious wiki is not a RS, but all users that are from other countries say that they air they same as they do in the united States. This also was been brought up many times before that nickelodeon airs its 2 part episodes as one episode as well posting it on line. Many show do that and tvguide counts it as one episode. The middle has several episodes that are counted as two episodes but aired as one and tvguide has it listed as one episode. Also other references say that there are 24 episodes in the season. it is silly saying that they are 24 episodes and only having 23 episodes are on the guide. You know that they have two be counted as two episodes. There is no rule on here that says that 1(2 part episodes) are listed as one episode. It depends on the show and the network. in this case Nickelodeon airs 2 part episodes as 1 show. Don't forget its a kids television network,kids would not get the to be continued at the end. Plus won't have they patience to wait a whole week. Also Nickelodeon tends to air episodes 2-4 weeks apart or even longer. so it makes sense to air 2 part episodes as one. but that does not mean it should be counted as one episode. If that's the case then all tv shows on Wikipedia should count all two part hour long episodes as one episode and that goes for 2 hour episodes as well. WP Editor 2012 (talk) 23:02, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TV Guide at http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/victorious/episodes-season-3/303439 shows 55 episodes have aired to date as does the current article. TV Guide also shows a two part episode for "Tori Goes Platinum" also reflected in the article. The only "rule" here is that we follow what reliable sources say, don't do original research, and everything added to an article is verifiable. The episodes themselves are the ultimate reliable source on what is in them. TV Guide is an outside of Wiki record of what was broadcast. It is also a well respected reliable source. It seems reasonable to me to go with something like that to base what is in the article then to somewhat arbitrarily, in my opinion, force everything to be counted as 22 minute chunks even when they were not broadcast that way. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:12, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How Many episodes? 58? 60?[edit]

I'm pretty sure "Freak the Freak out" and "Locked Up" are 2 episode lengths each. They were both an hour long. Why are they being addressed as one episode, which only accounts for a 20 minute length? That would put the show to 60 episodes, which was the ordered amount total, if I'm not mistaken.

Wikialexdx (talk) 16:56, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are addressed as one episode because they were one episode, one set of credits, no break in the middle. References show them as a single episode, we go with what references say. 60 episodes were produced, 58 broadcast and this article covers what was broadcast. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:23, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There No Season 4 At All...[edit]

Please look at all the Web Site Here:
Zap2It Tv Listing: Victorious Tv Listing from Zap2It
Victorious Tv Listing from Tv Guide.

This information come from the Tv Station & Nickelodeon...

SO THERE NO SEASON 4....
Thank you... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.55.165.121 (talk) 01:40, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WE Know but wikipedia list is different. Doesn't make it real. 78.183.83.218 (talk) 09:25, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Series overview[edit]

The Season 2 and Season 4 colors on the Series Overview are too similar. If nobody's opposed to changing the colors I'm going to go ahead and do it. --Prcc27 (talk) 07:19, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of unsourced trivia and most featured songs removed from this article[edit]

The episode list contained way too many notes, a lot of which were trivia and unsourced, and a lot of featured songs with no context as to why they were important to the episodes in question. I removed most of them per MOS:TV#Things to avoid, and will provide the edit if anyone wishes to review what I took out. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:17, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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